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Farmer Pete's avatar

Agent knocks another one out of the park. Forgive me in advance for what I believe to be a relevant tangent.

I am "in" a FB group that is run by a "Vit D" expert... on the plus side, they ultimately do not recommend any supplements. But 90% of the posts are about "testing" (aka lab values) for the Vitamin "levels". There is some debate about what they mean, which version of the D vitamin should be tested, and on and on. I decided that I had finally seen enough and put together a post describing how the discovery and foundational papers behind so-called vitamins are all junk science and there is no sound evidence that any such thing exists in nature (especially as a single molecule). I distilled some of my own research sources and included some of your fantastic articles.

I experienced much of what you discuss in your article in the way of people expressing cognitive dissonance over vitamin existence and defending them. They can't put it together that if there really is no such thing as a vitamin to test for, that the tests themselves are biologically meaningless and in fact, may be 'creating' the lab marker for the alleged vitamin through the testing/process itself. I think the testing (as similar to Covid or just about anything else-insert disease or "deficiency" label here- the allopaths want to dragnet new customers with) are an integral part of the scam. People really believe the tests themselves are authoritative determinations of something real going on rather than creative story telling. These tests are all downstream junk from the foundational junk. There are thousands of posts of people putting up their lab value results and asking what they mean...my answer, NOTHING.

The second key argument made by vitamin believers is that (some) supplements are ultimately necessary because the soil and food are all "deficient". I ping some arguments back that point out the lack of evidence for so-called deficiency diseases (which were part of the junk used to "discover" vitamins) and that they were really just cover stories for toxicity diseases (people eating crap non-foods and getting sick). I also have to ask them if they believe the soil is universally stripped of nutrients for all healthy and real foods, how are the supplements any different? Do they come from another planet? If you put a 1000 deficient carrots in a grinder and make carrot pills, does that make them vitamin/mineral rich? What's a thousand x zero? That's a tough one to answer...I recommend to them that if you can spend a bunch of money on finding a good 'whole food supplement', you can locate a local farmer that builds his/her soil in a healthy manner and just spend the same money on some real fruits and vegetables. Of course, big Ag has strip mined much of the soil with mass production, monocropping, and industrial application usage, but you want to avoid that anyway.

I wonder if your awesome series on the subject could include a piece that unravels the lab value/testing scam... which obviously can't be scientific if the thing they are testing for is only part of the human imagination and/or the end product of a chemical lab beaker voodoo magic trick. I wonder how many drugs- I mean "vitamins"- have been sold due to fraudulent testing scams. Likely similar to how many 'cancer' patients have been turned into industry commodities and you could go on down the list of so many other dubious diagnoses created from putting blood into a machine and having it spit out a new dis-ease label which requires a new drug/treatment/vitamin...

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I would encourage everyone in this chat to think about making their own bread, growing their own food in a garden and taking responsibility for their own health. Our government is nothing but a corrupt, murderous crime regime that has been trying to depopulate our families and our communities with their chemicals, poison and other nefarious activities for years.

The least you can do it take control of your health and the food you put in your mouth and raise the middle finger to all of those disgusting companies that hate you.

Gardens are NOT hard. Do some research and grow some of your food. Seeds are a 1000 times cheaper than anything in that toxic grocery store.

Also, just because its "gluten free" doesn't mean its chemical free.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/yesmaam/pages/680/attachments/original/1434329884/Data_Sheet.pdf?1434329884

Just because its "dairy free" doesn't mean it is healthier. In fact, its more toxic than most foods. Find raw milk and you will wonder why you ever thought about being "dairy free". Its just a bunch of gross chemicals to make you sicker under the guise of being dairy free.

https://getrawmilk.com/

https://www.realmilk.com/milk-as-medicine/

This is a lifestyle change and if I hear one more person tell me "well, I cant grow a garden because I have no room and live in an apartment" you might consider doing a search (not on google because we hate communists who hate our country and when you use their program, they data mine you and make money off of you and who wants to give communists money? not me! - but thats a whole 'nother story - anyway, search for "balcony gardens" and you can find all kinds of ideas to grow your next garden.

Then after that, do a search to discover how you can preserve your harvest.

WAKE UP and stop buying toxic grocery store food. Find small local farmers to buy your food from if you're too lazy or just dont want to, but keep this in mind that you have only ONE body and it is YOUR responsibly to take care of it.

stepping down off my soap box.

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