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Unfortunately some of the local organic growers still use BTK, which is glyphosate by another name, and was given approval in 1961 to be used in organic farming. So that's another thing to ask producers. Also BTK is what is sprayed in many areas every spring using low level airplanes supposedly to kill "gypsy moths", so even us home gardeners and those who don't directly spray it on their produce can still be effected if they are in a spray zone.

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I am on the west coast of Canada. Our organic farmers are for real. Some grow organically but are not certified. They tell me it is very expensive, so some small farmers just cannot afford the certification. I agree with you that it is good to ask questions. We totally deserve to know what is in our food.

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Thanks Bhavan, please inform those farmers that they can 'self-certify' by adhering to organic practices for at least 3 years and then create their own certificate and post it publicly.

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So this is true in Canada, or do you mean the states?

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I say three years because that is what the organic certification require, that no pesticides or chemical fertilizers were used for at least three years. A record must be kept of all farm inputs (compost, natural fertilizers, etc.)

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Anywhere. It's just my idea. The certificate could say something like 'grown organically using heirloom seeds'. Basically self-certification. You could have it notarized or just put your family crest/seal. Similar to a family trust, private family law. The trust creator calls the shots, and its a private document. Having it notarized makes it a self-proving trust.

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I love your idea, Tony.

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A long time ago, we shopped from an organic farm, who did all the right stuff, but lived too near a big highway to get certified. Their food was fantastic anyway.

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This might be true in some countries but I'll check this out tomorrow at my local organic farm.

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