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I will also say that "organic" apples can't be truly real and organic. I have 6 apple trees of different varieties. When I bite into one of the apples it starts turning brown within less than a minute. The store bought organic apples will often not turn brown even a little after several hours. Something rotten in Denmark.

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A few years ago we had a bag of "organic" apples in our second fridge that got forgotten, we only discovered them a year later, and they looked just like when we bought them, while our homegrown apples had all begun to rot within several months depending on variety. Left the bag in the fridge for another year just to see what would happen, and they still looked perfect. We then decided to bait a live rabbit trap with these apples as we had previously caught and transported several rabbits with apple bait. When cut the store bought apples were kind of like styrofoam inside, and the rabbits would have nothing to do with them, just like Agent's rodents won't eat fake food.

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No surprise there. Puts a real bad image on the few that really do raise food organically, however, most of those are small time growers and can't afford to go after the bogus certifications. I'm in an area that has limited growing season for many fruits and some vegetables and even then it's becoming a real struggle due to weather cycles changing and certainly isn't inexpensive due to water costs and soil amendments since my dirt is heavy dirt and not soil. But we all do what we can.

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No argument here.

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