Basically to grow true organic foods it must be done: a) by one's own garden b) most likely in a greenhouse c) watered without chlorine induced water d) seeds saved from previous home grown non GMO crops
Basically to grow true organic foods it must be done: a) by one's own garden b) most likely in a greenhouse c) watered without chlorine induced water d) seeds saved from previous home grown non GMO crops
Mitchell May, founder of the Synergy Company, has a huge, organic farm (I think they're located in Idaho) where all of their supplements are made from the certifiably, organic plants and herbs they grow. He is far from being the only one.
Thank you, "A", likewise. I know that Mitchell May's synergy company has complete control over the entire process of their food form supplements. From extracting the seeds and sprouts from their organic herbs & plants, to planting them in their farm's organic soil, to nurturing and harvesting and bottling and shipping. They don't outsource anything. If you can swing it, that is the way to go. As for oranges, I recall a nationally known and respected herbalist and naturopath, Dr. Richard Schultz (his products are outstanding) saying that with regard to the deleterious effects of commercial farming and corporate agribusinesses, there are huge orange groves in Florida wherein the oranges possess no vitamin "C". Imagine that. A fresh orange has traditionally been the best source of vitamin "C" on the planet. That is truly shocking and I'm certain just one of countless, similar examples.
Heretic, per your recommendation, I went and checked out Mitchell's PURE SYNERGY site. They have quite a bit of product. I think I counted over 40 different pill and powder bottles depending on what the customer is looking for. It does all sound very nice and the 'gentle' processing is appealing as well. If I were still a supplement taker, I would probably try some of these things out.
One thing I am noting is this quote under testing for purity section...
"We don't just assume that our meticulous sourcing protocols result in high-quality ingredients – we prove it with internal or third-party testing.
"We test for things we don't want in our ingredients, like heavy metals, microbes, pesticides, solvent residues, and gluten. And we also test for what we do want, like vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, and potency levels."
It is my understanding that so-called vitamins have never been truly isolated and characterized. They are a human invention. A "vitamin" was only ever a newly created end product after a gauntlet of chemical adulteration of the original materials... which would lead me to ask Pure Synergy, what 'test' is finding the alleged vitamins? Is it validated? I am curious enough that I might ask them what microbes they are testing for and why/how?
I also have to wonder what effect pulverizing and dehydrating a real food into powder form (even without chemicals) has on it. Maybe nothing. But unless I was going on a long journey, I'd probably just get it and eat it fresh/whole. Maybe we just need to teach people how to find the local farmers markets (meet and speak with them), and spend a little money on gas instead of hundreds of dollars on pills n' powders... that is, if they haven't sorted out how to grow it themselves.
It does trouble me that in order to sell these end products, you have to give them various "vitamin" labels (C, B, K2, etc..) and I have not seen evidence that such things 'exist' in the form everyone believes they do.
Perhaps, if I can find the time, I will pose these questions to them myself.
Excellent comment and questions, Pete. It is a new revelation to me that vitamins have never been isolated and characterized. Well known and respected herbalists like the aforementioned Dr. Schultz (and there are many others) insist that their herbal and botanical, organic products are chock full of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, phytonutrients, etc. etc. Concomitantly, viruses have never been proven to exist either and the so-called science of virology is based on fraud. What they say are viruses are really images of dead and dying cells from toxemia. On topic, the atom has never been found or proven to exist. So how has it been "split" in the process of creating atomic and nuclear weapons? According to quantum physicists, everything at that level of being is just wave function. How do you split a wave? These things are definitely worth looking into and researched empirically. I can honestly say that over a broad span of years, many health supplements, the food form organic ones, have helped me tremendously. I note very carefully that a very high number of people who shun such supplements and consume strictly food bought at stores and restaurants, seem to get sick a lot and die relatively young, if not very young.
Heretic, my curiosity got the best of me. I contacted Pure Synergy customer service. and they responded in a very thorough manner. They actually listed every "third party" lab & testing program they use (for bacteria, mold, pesticides, and gluten). I was surprised that they use an Elisa 'antibody' test for the gluten. So I only got what they 'test not for'... I had originally asked to include how they test for "vitamins", which I guess they will call "nutrient content"... and subsequent purity. I followed up asking specifically for that. Cuz god damn, I wanna know.
Personally, I don't really give a damn about bacteria and mold, given what I understand about them. Seems like if you were just growing real food without spraying crap all over it (and converting it into a pill), you could just tell your customers that rather than having to put it through a gauntlet of 7 different corporate/FDA created microbial tests to demonstrate it isn't garbage. But I want to know how they identify the "vitamin C", etc....
Basically to grow true organic foods it must be done: a) by one's own garden b) most likely in a greenhouse c) watered without chlorine induced water d) seeds saved from previous home grown non GMO crops
Mitchell May, founder of the Synergy Company, has a huge, organic farm (I think they're located in Idaho) where all of their supplements are made from the certifiably, organic plants and herbs they grow. He is far from being the only one.
Hey Heretic! Always good to see you around.
How's it made, is the question? I would assume the orange farm can dehydrate the oranges but what about all of the other ingredients?
Thank you, "A", likewise. I know that Mitchell May's synergy company has complete control over the entire process of their food form supplements. From extracting the seeds and sprouts from their organic herbs & plants, to planting them in their farm's organic soil, to nurturing and harvesting and bottling and shipping. They don't outsource anything. If you can swing it, that is the way to go. As for oranges, I recall a nationally known and respected herbalist and naturopath, Dr. Richard Schultz (his products are outstanding) saying that with regard to the deleterious effects of commercial farming and corporate agribusinesses, there are huge orange groves in Florida wherein the oranges possess no vitamin "C". Imagine that. A fresh orange has traditionally been the best source of vitamin "C" on the planet. That is truly shocking and I'm certain just one of countless, similar examples.
Heretic, per your recommendation, I went and checked out Mitchell's PURE SYNERGY site. They have quite a bit of product. I think I counted over 40 different pill and powder bottles depending on what the customer is looking for. It does all sound very nice and the 'gentle' processing is appealing as well. If I were still a supplement taker, I would probably try some of these things out.
One thing I am noting is this quote under testing for purity section...
"We don't just assume that our meticulous sourcing protocols result in high-quality ingredients – we prove it with internal or third-party testing.
"We test for things we don't want in our ingredients, like heavy metals, microbes, pesticides, solvent residues, and gluten. And we also test for what we do want, like vitamins, minerals, phytonutrients, and potency levels."
It is my understanding that so-called vitamins have never been truly isolated and characterized. They are a human invention. A "vitamin" was only ever a newly created end product after a gauntlet of chemical adulteration of the original materials... which would lead me to ask Pure Synergy, what 'test' is finding the alleged vitamins? Is it validated? I am curious enough that I might ask them what microbes they are testing for and why/how?
I also have to wonder what effect pulverizing and dehydrating a real food into powder form (even without chemicals) has on it. Maybe nothing. But unless I was going on a long journey, I'd probably just get it and eat it fresh/whole. Maybe we just need to teach people how to find the local farmers markets (meet and speak with them), and spend a little money on gas instead of hundreds of dollars on pills n' powders... that is, if they haven't sorted out how to grow it themselves.
It does trouble me that in order to sell these end products, you have to give them various "vitamin" labels (C, B, K2, etc..) and I have not seen evidence that such things 'exist' in the form everyone believes they do.
Perhaps, if I can find the time, I will pose these questions to them myself.
Excellent comment and questions, Pete. It is a new revelation to me that vitamins have never been isolated and characterized. Well known and respected herbalists like the aforementioned Dr. Schultz (and there are many others) insist that their herbal and botanical, organic products are chock full of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, phytonutrients, etc. etc. Concomitantly, viruses have never been proven to exist either and the so-called science of virology is based on fraud. What they say are viruses are really images of dead and dying cells from toxemia. On topic, the atom has never been found or proven to exist. So how has it been "split" in the process of creating atomic and nuclear weapons? According to quantum physicists, everything at that level of being is just wave function. How do you split a wave? These things are definitely worth looking into and researched empirically. I can honestly say that over a broad span of years, many health supplements, the food form organic ones, have helped me tremendously. I note very carefully that a very high number of people who shun such supplements and consume strictly food bought at stores and restaurants, seem to get sick a lot and die relatively young, if not very young.
Heretic, my curiosity got the best of me. I contacted Pure Synergy customer service. and they responded in a very thorough manner. They actually listed every "third party" lab & testing program they use (for bacteria, mold, pesticides, and gluten). I was surprised that they use an Elisa 'antibody' test for the gluten. So I only got what they 'test not for'... I had originally asked to include how they test for "vitamins", which I guess they will call "nutrient content"... and subsequent purity. I followed up asking specifically for that. Cuz god damn, I wanna know.
Personally, I don't really give a damn about bacteria and mold, given what I understand about them. Seems like if you were just growing real food without spraying crap all over it (and converting it into a pill), you could just tell your customers that rather than having to put it through a gauntlet of 7 different corporate/FDA created microbial tests to demonstrate it isn't garbage. But I want to know how they identify the "vitamin C", etc....