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Jewell's avatar

Women were strongly advised against breastfeeding in the Western world from the late 19th century until the late 1960s, driven by social changes and the rise of infant formula. In 1865, perhaps the first market baby formula was Liebig's Soluble Food for Babies. A movement began in the mid 1960s to get women to breastfeed again. It is interesting that breastfeeding does not look to have been considered in their work on Ricketts or other childhood diseases. But then childbirth itself moved from being considered natural to a medical condition.

Paul Charles Gregory's avatar

Anecdotal: My near-wife was told that, when a child of two, she had sat in the garden close to Leningrad where they were holidaying for the summer and had dug up onions, which she proceeded to eat raw. Her mother said to the grandmother, we must stop her, but the grandmother replied that the child will know what it is doing. And her rickets vanished.

summer's avatar

Here in Canada "organic" milk contains added D3 (and of course is also pasteurized and homogenized). They are still getting the poison into us one way or another.

Much of this new disease frenzy in Europe was happening during the time of the industrial revolution. Previous to this time something like 80% of the population lived rurally, with nearly everyone producing some or most of their food in home gardens or on small farms. The stats on rural living vs. city living reversed substantially as people moved from the countryside to cities to work in factories of all types. Factories were full of children forced to work long hours indoors in terrible conditions, often starting to work at age five. Working mothers could not breastfeed their young, who were left at home in the care of older siblings. People lived in crowded rooms which often had no cooking facilities so they had to live off bread and cheese and whatever they could afford to buy. And the staple bread was loaded with alum (still an ingredient in many baking powders today) and bleach and even sawdust, milk was watered down and whitened

with chalk. All so that the same ruling classes could make their fortunes................

Farmer Pete's avatar

Put the 'isolation' issue with so-called "vitamins" to the side for a moment. When you look at these "discovery" papers, they look like they were run by 7th graders who couldn't think logically.

First you take a group of puppies or rats (in many of these papers) and induce illness by giving them a staple diet of processed "skimmed" milk" (make sure to remove the health from the food), "bread" (probably not sprouted quality grains and freshly baked I'll have to assume), and yeast... make sure to keep them in a small lab cage with no natural light or exercise. Boom, they have "rickets". Now we can 'begin' our experiment with a bunch of tortured animals.

The study should be over. If you imprison and poison a bunch of puppies with a garbage diet, they will get sick, stay sick, or die in an 8-10 week period. What have we learned, children? Poisoning animals will kill them. Hypothesis confirmed.

But wait. What if we add real foods? Cod liver oil and butter... maybe reduce or replace some of the garbage diet? Make no special note of any other variables needed to control for in the experiment. These puppies or rats are somehow (go figure) not as sick as the fully poisoned puppies. Aha! There must be a "vitamin" in those foods. It isn't that we poisoned the sick puppies! They just need a miracle molecule we think (imagine) might be in the real food! We have confirmed this because we tried adding linseed oil (paint varnish), and that didn't heal the bones of the rats. Linseed oil does not have "vitamin D", but butter does. You see?

A Jr. High science teacher should tell the kids doing the experiment is that all they can deduce so far is that animals get much sicker on chemically processed foods and paint varnish, but do better with butter and cod liver oil. Where the fuck did you find a "vitamin"??

All of these original animal studies used to claim discovery of vitamins are similar junk science.

Crixcyon's avatar

With every disease a virtual lie, the case of rickets being cured by vit-D is another highly questionable claim. Could it be poisons?

Leo's avatar

Spot on, at least according to D. Velcek;

Someone who dissects ALL diseases, & offers a solution.

IMO, a superb complement to Agent13’s encyclopaedical work /knowledge.

Cf. darkovelcek – HEALYOURSELF -or- https://darkovelcek.wordpress.com/author/darkovelcek/

Epistemology of Natural Order's avatar

The best evidence the mainstream has for this, according to DeepSeek, is that cod liver oil cured rickets and so did UV light, and they both contain or cause the body to produce "vitamin D." That couldn't be a coincidence, right? Oh it could be. And the mechanism they claim for "vitamin D" is very complicated, going through the liver and the kidneys to then unlock calcium in the digestive tract, but somehow also it can act directly on bones to have them take more of the calcium from the bloodstream.

There was never an RCT against a placebo that looked at only "vitamin D" and had it cure rickets. Everything was indeed populational observation studies, non-RCTs, or had confounding variables in the study. DeepSeek admitted that there was no RCT to prove cause and effect and that the belief was grandfathered in. Can it still work? I don't know...someone oughtta check.

D S's avatar

So D3 enriched milk advertise to protect teeth actually adding to demineralization?