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That is basically what Joe wrote in that a prior Christ story was recycled. Can one who tries to be like Jesus and the proverbs say to be without the miracle stuff be called a Christian? I believe that the wisdom of this Earth is in there and that harmonizing with this creation leads to positive stuff. (Yes, this is a creation unless one believes in something from nothing.) I think that you will enjoy 200 Years Together and Solzhenitsyn's depiction of it as a historian with Dr. Johnsons insights. It involves the same characters which have come to dominate us now.

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I started listening to 200 years - It is very interesting. Thanks.

I don't believe the Christ figure was recycled - IMO, much of the OT is bogus and was constructed by Tribal leaders around 600 BC to keep the Tribe together and to enforce their separate and chosen identity. There is a lack of archeological evidence or reference to the Tribe in Egyptian and other writings. I believe the genealogy and prophesy of the OT was then put in the NT to back up the myth. There is no way to reconcile Yahweh the tribal god of the Jews, which dwelled on the earth, with the teachings of Jesus who welcomed everyone. Yahweh instructs his followers to murder or enslave other tribes and promises them all the wealth in the world. There is no afterlife in the OT - dust to dust. The individual is of little importance it is the tribe - the collective. IMO Jesus was not the Jewish Messiah nor was he Jewish or born in a manger. That was constructed afterwards. He ascended and descended. I believe many of the stories in the OT were borrowed/stolen from other beliefs. Given the Jewish influence on societies - its not that much of a stretch to think that they had the same impact on the construction of the Bible as to what was to be included in 325AD - especially since most of the early church leaders and scribes were Jewish. Unfortunately by tacking the OT on the NT and Judaizing the books, Christians began to believe they were the new Israelites - justifying their slaughter God -type behavior. The end time "prophesy" of revelations is styled after the OT - so it completes corruption.

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