same! we hadda millionaire landlord (from Columbia btw) that would not remediate a leak that soaked the drywall--after weeks of beggin' it got ta the point where my older daughter was vomitin' as that wall was in her room... we were all sick as dawgs, painful joints, gut issues, all've us. I had ta pay fer testin' m'self as Mister Cheaps…
same! we hadda millionaire landlord (from Columbia btw) that would not remediate a leak that soaked the drywall--after weeks of beggin' it got ta the point where my older daughter was vomitin' as that wall was in her room... we were all sick as dawgs, painful joints, gut issues, all've us. I had ta pay fer testin' m'self as Mister Cheapskate wanted ta just have the super spray the wall with a little bleach. After the results came in (black mold, the wurst) an' the threat ta call in public health in (this was in NYC btw so some tenant protections eggzisted...), the landlord reneged an' remediated--it took 4 days with dudes in hazmat suits & industrial air cleaners an' FINALLY we could breath again an' my girl stopped retchin'... Entire wall REMOVED. Took nearly a year of detox ta get back ta where were were.... Anybuddy sez Black Mold is bunk duz not know... jus' sayin' (yer results may differ if yer Superman)
Maybe it's not the mold itself that's to blame, but the decomposition gases caused by the digestion of the mold? The decomposition gases of moisture, drywall, paint, and other chemicals? By the mold. Molds have been around for millions of years, but the problems have only become more apparent with the advent of new building materials. But there's a lot of money in them, so they're not going to be blamed.
perhaps / dunno--there are airborne spores (not quite gasses) an' they "grow" in a petrie dish--the remediator guy told me that much... either way, human bodies (lungs!) are harmed by breathin' in whatever is produced (spores, gasses too?). The odor is strong... but normally drywall is just gypsum, the paint latex... no lead 'er other chemicals present afaik... all I kin say is black mold is bad nooze an' vinegar 'n bleach ain't enuf ta remediate it... (some folks are far more sensitive to it...that's likely as well)
Yes, mold spores are always in the air. The drywall paper is made by adding chemicals. Putty, + paint, or wallpaper - with glue - is applied to it, which, when wetted and + moldy, release various toxic gases into the air. Which then weakens people and causes various diseases. I am not a chemist, and I do not know the exact formulas of all the substances that react with each other in this case, but I think that the essence of the article is that the health hazard of black mold has not been proven. Because the described method of proof cannot prove anything other than that vile people like to torture animals, people, and anything else, which they then want to sell as "science" to those who do not know their methods... Because as Agent wrote, putting mice in a moldy place and seeing if they get sick would have been enough proof that it's harmful or makes you sick... But what they're doing is completely worthless as evidence, but perfectly suitable for offering sacrifices to evil...
sure, an' I'm not qvestionin' that. But I will say that non-moldly drywall that just gits wet (been there too) has no such effect. I'm not sayin' any of the testin' that's been shared shows the keerecht mechanism by which "black mold" harms--but ta say it's all a hoax really negates that true experience of many. An' it's not only drywall that causes it. We know folks in a velly old pre-war apartment that had regular plaster (no drywall!)-- an' when an upstairs tub caused their leak that formed black mold that was embedded in the plaster for months--two of the fam and their dog suffered horribly an' the others did not. My friend who suffered now needs an epipen as even after the remediation she didn't heal--her immune system became more sensitized. Like I said, I don't understand the mechanics--nor do I know if there's non-bull-oney studies not shared here. I know medi-sin is much made up... but all I will say is all molds are not the same... our pink mold under the sink? Just gross (an' we remediated it with enzymes!) but the black stuff ain't a joke... just our eggsperience... notta good one!
same! we hadda millionaire landlord (from Columbia btw) that would not remediate a leak that soaked the drywall--after weeks of beggin' it got ta the point where my older daughter was vomitin' as that wall was in her room... we were all sick as dawgs, painful joints, gut issues, all've us. I had ta pay fer testin' m'self as Mister Cheapskate wanted ta just have the super spray the wall with a little bleach. After the results came in (black mold, the wurst) an' the threat ta call in public health in (this was in NYC btw so some tenant protections eggzisted...), the landlord reneged an' remediated--it took 4 days with dudes in hazmat suits & industrial air cleaners an' FINALLY we could breath again an' my girl stopped retchin'... Entire wall REMOVED. Took nearly a year of detox ta get back ta where were were.... Anybuddy sez Black Mold is bunk duz not know... jus' sayin' (yer results may differ if yer Superman)
Maybe it's not the mold itself that's to blame, but the decomposition gases caused by the digestion of the mold? The decomposition gases of moisture, drywall, paint, and other chemicals? By the mold. Molds have been around for millions of years, but the problems have only become more apparent with the advent of new building materials. But there's a lot of money in them, so they're not going to be blamed.
Basically this is what Dr. Tom Cowan also suggested. The decomposing material is the problem but the mould itself.
Agree 100%
perhaps / dunno--there are airborne spores (not quite gasses) an' they "grow" in a petrie dish--the remediator guy told me that much... either way, human bodies (lungs!) are harmed by breathin' in whatever is produced (spores, gasses too?). The odor is strong... but normally drywall is just gypsum, the paint latex... no lead 'er other chemicals present afaik... all I kin say is black mold is bad nooze an' vinegar 'n bleach ain't enuf ta remediate it... (some folks are far more sensitive to it...that's likely as well)
Yes, mold spores are always in the air. The drywall paper is made by adding chemicals. Putty, + paint, or wallpaper - with glue - is applied to it, which, when wetted and + moldy, release various toxic gases into the air. Which then weakens people and causes various diseases. I am not a chemist, and I do not know the exact formulas of all the substances that react with each other in this case, but I think that the essence of the article is that the health hazard of black mold has not been proven. Because the described method of proof cannot prove anything other than that vile people like to torture animals, people, and anything else, which they then want to sell as "science" to those who do not know their methods... Because as Agent wrote, putting mice in a moldy place and seeing if they get sick would have been enough proof that it's harmful or makes you sick... But what they're doing is completely worthless as evidence, but perfectly suitable for offering sacrifices to evil...
sure, an' I'm not qvestionin' that. But I will say that non-moldly drywall that just gits wet (been there too) has no such effect. I'm not sayin' any of the testin' that's been shared shows the keerecht mechanism by which "black mold" harms--but ta say it's all a hoax really negates that true experience of many. An' it's not only drywall that causes it. We know folks in a velly old pre-war apartment that had regular plaster (no drywall!)-- an' when an upstairs tub caused their leak that formed black mold that was embedded in the plaster for months--two of the fam and their dog suffered horribly an' the others did not. My friend who suffered now needs an epipen as even after the remediation she didn't heal--her immune system became more sensitized. Like I said, I don't understand the mechanics--nor do I know if there's non-bull-oney studies not shared here. I know medi-sin is much made up... but all I will say is all molds are not the same... our pink mold under the sink? Just gross (an' we remediated it with enzymes!) but the black stuff ain't a joke... just our eggsperience... notta good one!
You're right. Surely the release of toxins from rot weakens a person's immune system, and the number of mold spores is no minor factor.
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