Donald Rumsfeld was on the BOD of Searle and was the one who got Nutrasweet approved by the FDA. They knew how harmful the ‘sweetener’ was, but let’s not let death and disease stand in the way of making a buck.
I’m convinced that all the things we’re told are ‘safe’, ‘ generally recognized as safe (GRAS)’, etc, is all BS.
Incredible article with Agent131711 like writing including histories of the sweeteners (cause and effect in constant play) and the politicians necessary to enact anything due to their board(s) connections and status. Rumsfeld unleashed the neurotoxic ASS-Par-tane on the unwitting public and today it is in almost all chewing gums and many other products.
He also I heard bot into the top antidepressant drug or 2 at the same time apparently predicting aspartame would cause a wave of depression,it did,cashed in ie problem , sulution manipulation...can you imagine the sum total suffering links here? My sister became addicted to 3/ day aspartame sodas back then in early 90s,got very depressed, unbalanced and ended up getting lead poisoning from a Chinese herbalist trying to heal, developed neuropathy,then alcoholism, killed her eventually about 25 years of suffering later.They radically lowered the aspartame sodas doses after 2005 or so cuz so many hurt...it's still out there! Kinda like MDMA or MSG,overstimulates ,drains..your a sad neurotic slug after awhile,just say no.Honey and coconut sugar my faves.
RandiG.....think!!!! Everything you 'know' is what someone TOLD you to know....the Mass Printing of school books , Bibles ,Korans , encyclopedias, research textbooks are all printed by a few printing companies....all owned by Jews and EDITED by Jews..fact is all YOU really 'Know" is what some teacher or educator TOLD you to KNOW..and they only KNOW what they have been told to know or have read in some Jew Published Book..kinda looks like "Who Owns Who??"
Thanks for the great post and I agree with all of it except that Stevita Organic liquid Stevia has ZERO Erythritol in it: Ingredients are - water, organic vegetable glycerin, organic stevia extract, and citric acid.
This particular stevia (Stevita Organic Liquid) IS brown liquid and yes, you could pick on the citric acid (which is just about everything else on the shelves also) and you could pick on vegetable glycerin I guess but at the end of the day, I am sticking with Stevita Organic Liquid Stevia.
Feedback: Sometimes you are so focused on demonizing a product that you forget to look at all the other factors (like the FACT that the FDA pushed off stevia coming to market because they were in bed with Monsanto and making billions on Aspartame and later sucralose. They were busily culling the human population using other 'sweet' methods. Why aren't you highlighting this??? This was general knowledge and you focused instead on demonizing Stevia.
I consume TONS of stevia with zero side effects of what you claim are heart and kidney issues. What are the extent of the studies? Where are the cited studies...were these studies on erythritol or stevia? Big difference here. Definitely need more data to make abrupt claims like this.
Agree. I came here to say the same thing as well as the fact that Stevia isn't a weed, it's a plant. Technically a weed is a plant that grows where you don't want it. I have grown stevia and I have to say that I don't think that natural plants here as part of the natural cycle of life are toxic. Of course, anything that goes through an industrialized processing can be and often is. As well, all too often certain components are extracted from the totality of a plant. Typical of man. Also, about anything can be used for a detrimental effect if wanted, think of water, for instance. As with everything, (milk, eggs, fats, sweeteners, water, air, foods), the focus often ends up on the "bad" ones and throws everything in the same pot together. We know that fresh, raw milk from grass fed (not toxic grass) cows is actually healthy, same with eggs and everything else, yet there is no delineation between these and commercialized processed products when attacked.
I always said that about the milk debate! You cannot compare low quality pasteurized homogenized milk with raw dairy from healthy pasture grazing cows. Dairy is GOOD!
the Stevia Plant grows all over. in the southern world . It is a roadside weed..I have grown stevia and the plant is sweet...I have used leaves in teas and coffee....
\But the Fancy Worlds need to 'Doctor it Up' for the Braindead who think everything should be white and crystal white is best?? IDK
Sure does - I completely agree - and the brown liquid stevia from Stevita has good ingredients - it ain't white crystal powder so no need for processing. My A1C is 5.1 and I have Stevia to thank :)
You are obviously not taking synthetic vitamins. If you take supplements that are strictly from natural sources, they help. If you take industrial waste marketed as 'vitamins' you are making yourself ill.
Lady, we even have our own garden and chickens, eat local raw dairy, local sourced free range meats, we don't eat anything Industrial complex if we can help it. But according to some of these people here taking any Vitamin from any source is going to be "rat poison" or make us "sterilized", for example. I feel some people are a little overzealous in their mission. I agree with the lady who said that we weren't considering other factors, in judging supplements and how they are made. Thank you for your reminder not to be touching what we call around here, 'cabal food" or "goyslop". Hot pocket, anyone? 😂
Hang on a minute! When did I say that vitamins from ANY source is going to be 'rat' poison?
First of all, I know that no vitamin, like no virus has ever been isolated.
Secondly, I know that the best source of nutrition, no matter what it is called, is nature.
Thirdly, if all these products are so good for us, why are US and Canada, the biggest consumers, the sickest people in the world, while those in less 'advanced' nations are robust, healthy and able well into their late 90s?
Try hard not to muddy the waters by conflating things we do say with things we didn't say. No one has yet shown how people who source their food from nature and nature alone are not healthier by far then those who source their 'health' from profiteering corporations.
No need to react, I didn't say you, I said some people. And I would say largely that the sickening of Americans comes from all the chemicals in the food supply that they don't allow in other countries, I think that's pretty easy to guess. I don't think it's because of their vitamins lack of quality.
I agree with LM McCormick - there are certain synthetic vitamins/supplements I take that DO make a positive difference. As the substack author says, if it works for you, keep taking it.
Example: The LD50 (Lethal Dose that kills 50% of the animals in studies) for B1 using synthetic HCl is something like 30 grams or 30,000 mg when equated to 150lb human. But yet taken in smaller doses like human equivalent of 1 gram B1 (HCl) and combined with synthetic vitamins B3, B7 plus aspirin - these 4 items combined ERADICATED the most lethal cancers in mice within 14 days...but wait Grace...there's more! The mice were kept alive and the cancer NEVER reappeared!
So I had skin cancer on my nose, took the B1, B3, B7 and aspirin...the cancer healed.
Want to know more about this study that was done OUTSIDE the NIH, the CDC, and all the Cabal-run agencies? Youtube - Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8
...this guy actually DID the study himself...everyone else only 'quotes' studies....I invite you to consider not to throw the baby out with the bath water
Please do not misunderstand me: My modus operandi is to let other people be the guinea pigs if they should want to be. Meanwhile, I eat healthy foods that I grow myself or source from reputable farmers, because I know that the Creator provided us with everything we need long before greedy and immoral corporations came along.
To me it is only common sense that synthetic anything is never a good thing to put into one's body or to even bring into our lives.
I also have lived long enough to know that the true consequences of any product on the market that makes a corporation big profits, will eventually injure, if not kill the believer. All you need do is see how many 'wonder' products have ended up causing chronic disease and death after providing a brief period of what appeared to be 'relief'.
It may take a long time for anything synthetic to show the harm. Look at how many people swore their psych meds 'helped them' and how they now suffer brain damage (tardive dyskinesia), loss of sex drive and chronic health issues, and that is if the 'wonder' drugs did not cause them to commit suicide or homicide.
I tend to do my own 'studies'. I watch what happens to others who look for the quick fix. I had leukemia...I watched what 'experts' did to my brothers who died of leukemia and realized it was they who killed my brothers, not the leukemia. How do I know that, because I survived by going to common sense, healing homeopathics and herbs.
I don't need 'supplements'; I eat foods that provide what I need. It is really that simple a study to do.
I wish everyone the best, as it is hard to survive in the quick sand we have been forced into where practically all 'experts' make money from keeping making and keeping us sick.
I am so sorry to hear about your brother dying of leukemia. Western medicine makes trillions on cancers while slowly killing most diagnosed with cancers.
I am very familiar with leukemia also. My father was diagnosed (early) with leukemia and he was very open to alt medicine - so I took him immediately to Hippocrates Health Institute in Florida. 3 weeks later he was leukemia-free and that was 6 years ago (he is now 92 yrs old and going strong).
Hippocrates shared with us that blood diseases are among the easiest to heal with alternative natural health protocols - my father ate a super nutrient dense, calorie-poor diet for 3 weeks including multiple wheat grass shots daily and also did all the other healing modalities while there (sauna, red light therapy, hyperbaric O2, high-dose vitamin IV shots, colonics, energy medicine therapy, massage, etc.) he was in healing sessions of one kind or another all day everyday...3 weeks later he felt 15 years younger and was free of disease. It was amazing and I'm so thankful we didn't do the medical route as I am sure he would be dead by now.
It was because his family cared enough to see him through doing what needed to be done. Today, people are told to take their loved ones to the cancer clinics , so families think that's all the options there are.
When my 2nd brother was diagnosed, I went to an organic store and bought everything I knew he needed to rebuild his system and even prepared some meals ahead for him. All his wife needed to do was warm them in a conventional over (not microwave).
When I returned, he had not taken a single item -- his wife did not believe in such things and was deadly loyal to the oncologist. After I had left, she had let everything spoil and threw it all out!
I hate her to this day, and I'm not one to hate easily.
There is no need to "demonize" them. But considering the state of affairs about what "they" are claimed to be, questions needed to be asked and hopefully answered:
1) Were such things as "vitamins" ever truly discovered? Going back to foundational papers gives you a pretty good answer. There were no controlled-for methods and real science during the processes. All the methods were basically chemical manufacturing processes creating new end products that had nothing to do with anything found in food.
2) How did this shoddy 'science' become a multi-billion dollar industry driven by the pharmaceutical industry? Follow the bouncing balls...
3) How are "vitamins" made? The difference between synthetic and "whole food" can be significant, but even the latter has its issues... particularly with very sketchy and unregulated labeling.
4) Can you pull a single molecule/constituent out of a symphony of food micronutrients and have it work in isolation from everything else? Give it special attributes? The evidence is lacking.
5) When people start or stop taking drugs, they can feel positive effects (symptom reduction), or negative effects (symptom returns)...and root/underlying causes never addressed. So-called "vitamins" fit perfectly in this category.
I don't think Agent has ever told anyone to not take anything they want to or "believe in" (like a good placebo).... but best to be fully informed before walking into a decision making situation (like, especially how to decode an ingredient label or understand how products are ACTUALLY made). That isn't "demonizing".
When people stop taking drugs, the symptoms don't return. What they experience are withdrawal issues -- big difference.
For example: in order for psychiatrists to be able to keep patients on brain-damaging drugs, they tell them their 'symptoms' are returing instead of telling them the truth that they must wean off very, vry slowly and they will likely go through long and hard struggles with withdrawal symptoms. That's how addictive all these pharma products truly are.
When they get you addicted to pain meds, and when you try to wean off them, they tell you that the withdrawal symptoms are just the injury or former source of pain is coming back or acting up. It's all a massive murdering racket.
"When people stop taking drugs, the symptoms don't return. What they experience are withdrawal issues -- big difference."
Both things can be true. When you cease suppressing symptoms with drugs, the symptoms may return (even possibly worse) because the symptoms are not the root of the dis-ease and the root was never addressed, because symptom interference is downstream and is actually a healing interference . Dependency and withdrawal issues may occur too, depending on the chemicals used to try and fool the intelligent, healing body.
So far as I can tell from Agent's excellent series on how so-called vitamins are made (with industrial waste byproducts)... there is little difference between these products and your average pharmaceutical... chemicals used to create effects. Personally, I don't see why the human body would require these kinds of ingredients... or ever be "deficient" in them. People can do what they want of course. Best to know what exactly you are putting in.
Okay Farmer Pete: I followed Giorgi Dinkov based on his own private study on mice that he funded and no, there wasn't a 'placebo effect' because the mice had no idea what they were eating.
He cured them of the most lethal cancers AND kept them alive after discontinuing the vitamins to ensure the cancer never returned.
So I had skin cancer on my nose, took synthetic B1, B3, B7 and aspirin...the cancer healed. Placebo effect? Maybe...but the mice healed also. (and yes Agent ABOLUTELY demonized these vitamins complete with photos, and detailed manufacturing processes that looked scary.)
Want to know more about this study using synthetic vitamins....which was done OUTSIDE the NIH, the CDC, and all the Cabal-run agencies? Youtube - Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8
Giorgi Dinkov is genius level intelligence, not a cabal scientist, operates independently 'as a hobby' and proves his own theories using living mice. He has discovered many every-day do's and don'ts building on the bioenergetic approach which is anti-western medicine and goes against all mainstream recommendations...he healed himself after being very very ill.
All that said, I take Agent 'with a grain of salt' no matter how many gory photos he shows.........he is biased just like all of us
I would need to go through the methods and controls of the study to reach any kind of conclusion about saving mice from cancer with synthetic "vitamins" and aspirin. Do you have it? I may not spend much time on it because a couple of the articles I pulled up citing Dinkov's work demonstrated that he has a rather 'allopathic' view of what Cancer actually is... and therefore I'm unlikely to even round 1st base with his research.
Have you read Agent's articles on the ingredients and how the B vitamins are made? I highly recommend. If after reading, you still think putting toxic garbage in your body will help you, I say go for it. Nobody is going to stop you.
Farmer Pete, yes - I read Agent's articles on synthetic vitamins, saw all the photos and videos AND I still take it with a grain of salt because of my own healing experiences and because of other indedpendent studies I follow. Now Farmer Pete - do I take synthetics regularly - NO. Do I think anyone should be taking these everyday - NO...Do I eat only whole/non-processed food only from my own garden or from my local farmers - YES.
BUT it appears that you aren't watching any Giorgi Dinkov because he is NOT allopathic (in fact allopathic meds made him sicker)...he knows more bio-chem than any expert I know and can run circles around even the brightest.
I invite you to watch him before replying back to me (LOL) If you watch Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8 - you may be surprised that you quickly discover a lot you don't already know (just sayin...)
I know it is so hard to watch something that disagrees with your mindset (i.e. cognitive dissonance) but I watch everything from ALL sides to get a better, rounded approach...I don't just watch/read stuff that agree with Agent.....
I don't mind taking in info that conflicts with something I already "believed" or think that I know...that's how I got here. The reason I asked for the publication is because I have learned how to tell if studies are bullshit or not and I don't like having to commit to video watching. From what I read in articles citing Dinkov's work, he seemed to advocated "attacking" cancer cells as if it is a war/battle/fight. This is generally an allopathic mindset about symptoms and healing.
If one gets a grasp on the concept that what we call cancer is actually a survival mechanism by the body in a last ditch effort to rid the body of toxins (often in a localized bag called a tumor), you wouldn't launch a war against it by dumping more toxins (like lab synthetic vitamins made from industrial waste byproducts) into an already overburdened cleansing system (often wrongly referred to as the "immune system" {{more war and battle talk}}. It sounds like chemo-lite. Less harmful poisons...although, I certainly don't doubt that they create an 'effect'- perhaps by temporarily redirecting the body's efforts elsewhere.
Now, if you have a convincing published paper of vitamins saving rodents from cancer, I'll have a go at it. But I have to admit, I'm skeptical because I've read through lots of this shit before.
In the study they wanted to test some patented chemical supplements to see if they helped to slow tumor growth.
They took lab bred hamsters and injected them with toxic goo to induce artificially created cancer. Right off the bat, this is a rather disturbing way to go about "sciencing".
They gave the drugs to 6 experimental groups of hamsters and none to one pre-poisoned control group. From what I can tell is the most they followed the hamsters was 55 days. Some of the drug taking hamsters lived a little longer than the control group or had reduced tumor size. Voila! Take methylene blue, benzoic acid, and Ethyl acetoacetate, and you can be just like these hamsters.
Hazardous lab created chemical concoctions called "food based supplements" are good for your health.
I guess one could consider this 'better living through chemistry'. You can go on India Mart's website and buy the raw materials on the cheap in huge drums. Just make sure you wear a hazmat suit if you're going to mix up a batch of this chemical soup.
Jeremy Nell has just done a fantastic interview with Zoe Harcombe on his Jerm Warfare podcast. She illustrates why there would be no vitamin supplements if there were not vegetarians and vegans. That is, people following those eating patterns cannot and never will be able to get essential minerals etc from the foods they eat. She sets out all the factors- an hours listening well worth the effort finding.
Well, I had Stevia growing in my herb bed and every year after the rains start there is a grasshopper infestation, they ate the stevia. I super appreciate your revealings and also appreciate those who comment for their balanced points of view and additional information.
"Now time grows short. History will not allow the people of Shem additional centuries, or even decades, to come to their senses and realize what is going on. Just as they have been victims of massacres and genocides for centuries, the people of Shem now face the determination of the Canaanites to exterminate them utterly and finally. a goal they hope to achieve by the end of the millenium."
Incredible all the foods that have artificial sweeteners in them. Gum is one. I remember trying to use the gunk in the pink packet maybe in the 1970's in my coffee...YUCK. There sure is a lot of plotting going on...in the cemetery.
Not really a surprise that Stevia is as terrible as the other fake sugars. Where do a few others like Xylitol & Monk Fruit fit into this equation, although I can probably guess. Honey and Maple Syrup are my favourites, but you mentioned you would prefer Stevia over actual Cane Sugar?
I was disturbed to discover xylitol is extremely toxic to dogs (and other animals, I presume) a fact overlooked or deliberately hidden by food manufacturers. It is apparently added in products such as yoghurt (not all but how do we know?) Just think how many times we share our food with our dependent pets. It brings tears to my eyes thinking how easily a loved pet could accidentally be poisoned.
Likely toxic to our gut and intestinal linings too as destroys good bacteria ie probiotics key to brain neuron making , especially dangerous to pregnant women who's baby's really need those good guys at birth studies show huge development damage without..ie they're after us!
I agree. We were never designed to eat trees (let alone their leaves). The fact that eating too much (!!!) has a laxative effect....that is the body getting rid of a toxin as rapidly as it can (vomiting being the only other fast method). Some people can't even eat tree nuts....also indicative that perhaps we shouldn't try to eat any other part of the tree.
Natural stevia plants are not fake sugars. but yes is sweet tasting. There are, however, a large number of products that claim to be natural stevia that aren't and as usual all of these things are lumped together. Most commercial products claiming the name "stevia" are little to nothing of the sort. Same can be said for xylitol, monk fruit, agave, and all of the others. Companies, (and the government, etc.) jump on a natural product and then beat it to death, extract, chemically treat, add this or that, remove this or that, and process it and then sell it as a natural alternative to something. This is preposterous and any one that has any knowledge at all of nature and plants and animals and has grown their own foods is well aware of this. What articles like this do is cause many non-thinkers to accept that all stevia or other truly natural plants are dangerous which is emphatically untrue. One has to remember that the health of honey, as well, depends on many, many factors. It's all in how one wants to slant something. And of course, even long, long ago "studies" were tainted intentionally and researchers both indoctrinated and fooled and/or complicit in the lies.
The more I read about these scams, the more I realize humans are a lot stronger than we realize.
We are literally poisoned 100% of the time; still we survive.
What if we all got together and walked all these corporate heads and 'scientists' to the gallows...we would be incredibly healthy, happy and wise and our planet would rejoice.
If you're smart, you do NOT want "regulated supplements." Who would be regulating them, the FDA? The FDA would just see to it that all of them are poisoned, none are effective, and that very few useful supplements exist. That isn't currently the case, there are all kinds of great supplements out there as long as you know what to look for. I don't touch drugs; supplements are a completely different world than medications.
I tried Stevia. It was so gross I threw out the big bag of it and bought organic pure cane sugar. I don't use it much anyways, but anything that doesn't come real food - don't eat it.
Good point, LM McCormick. My friend's husband was growing it in their yard. They live in Kentucky. AI says, "Stevia is a plant native to Paraguay and Brazil, but is now cultivated commercially in many countries including China, India, Kenya, and parts of the United States."
Good grief, a chemical derived from the manufacture of dynamite for sterling blokes😱 Can you imagine the headlines if it went wrong "you were only meant to blow his bloody balls off" (nod to Michael Caine) 😂
I tasted a stevia leaf at a plant nursery once and it tasted exactly like the horrible artificial sweeteners do. I do not like sweetened coffee and tea and rarely drink soda so luckily it is not an issue for me.
There is another plot twist you didn’t touch on.
Donald Rumsfeld was on the BOD of Searle and was the one who got Nutrasweet approved by the FDA. They knew how harmful the ‘sweetener’ was, but let’s not let death and disease stand in the way of making a buck.
I’m convinced that all the things we’re told are ‘safe’, ‘ generally recognized as safe (GRAS)’, etc, is all BS.
https://choq.com/sweeteners-of-war-how-monsanto-and-donald-rumsfeld-brought-us-saccharin-and-aspartame/
Incredible article with Agent131711 like writing including histories of the sweeteners (cause and effect in constant play) and the politicians necessary to enact anything due to their board(s) connections and status. Rumsfeld unleashed the neurotoxic ASS-Par-tane on the unwitting public and today it is in almost all chewing gums and many other products.
Here is the documentary Sweet Misery. The Deadly Aspartame story.
https://soberchristiangentlemanpodcast.substack.com/p/fyidocumentary-sweet-misery-a-poisoned
It's always the opposite of what government says. Remember when they said you should have 6-8 slices of bread? Cereals, etc.
Things like Stevia is how billionaires are made.
He also I heard bot into the top antidepressant drug or 2 at the same time apparently predicting aspartame would cause a wave of depression,it did,cashed in ie problem , sulution manipulation...can you imagine the sum total suffering links here? My sister became addicted to 3/ day aspartame sodas back then in early 90s,got very depressed, unbalanced and ended up getting lead poisoning from a Chinese herbalist trying to heal, developed neuropathy,then alcoholism, killed her eventually about 25 years of suffering later.They radically lowered the aspartame sodas doses after 2005 or so cuz so many hurt...it's still out there! Kinda like MDMA or MSG,overstimulates ,drains..your a sad neurotic slug after awhile,just say no.Honey and coconut sugar my faves.
RandiG.....think!!!! Everything you 'know' is what someone TOLD you to know....the Mass Printing of school books , Bibles ,Korans , encyclopedias, research textbooks are all printed by a few printing companies....all owned by Jews and EDITED by Jews..fact is all YOU really 'Know" is what some teacher or educator TOLD you to KNOW..and they only KNOW what they have been told to know or have read in some Jew Published Book..kinda looks like "Who Owns Who??"
Rumsfeld is a criminal, should be in jail- aspartame is poison- turns to formaldehyde in the brain.
YEAH...he only been dead almost 5 years............duhhhhhh ...Donald Henry Rumsfeld (July 9, 1932 – June 29, 2021)
Oh Right, I forgot, the bastard is dead LOL
Wayne,
I totally agree!!
Thank you for the excelent insight of the calorie counting craze from the late 70’s and until today!
I was very suspicious when the fake sugars came to market!
Thanks for the great post and I agree with all of it except that Stevita Organic liquid Stevia has ZERO Erythritol in it: Ingredients are - water, organic vegetable glycerin, organic stevia extract, and citric acid.
This particular stevia (Stevita Organic Liquid) IS brown liquid and yes, you could pick on the citric acid (which is just about everything else on the shelves also) and you could pick on vegetable glycerin I guess but at the end of the day, I am sticking with Stevita Organic Liquid Stevia.
Feedback: Sometimes you are so focused on demonizing a product that you forget to look at all the other factors (like the FACT that the FDA pushed off stevia coming to market because they were in bed with Monsanto and making billions on Aspartame and later sucralose. They were busily culling the human population using other 'sweet' methods. Why aren't you highlighting this??? This was general knowledge and you focused instead on demonizing Stevia.
I consume TONS of stevia with zero side effects of what you claim are heart and kidney issues. What are the extent of the studies? Where are the cited studies...were these studies on erythritol or stevia? Big difference here. Definitely need more data to make abrupt claims like this.
Agree. I came here to say the same thing as well as the fact that Stevia isn't a weed, it's a plant. Technically a weed is a plant that grows where you don't want it. I have grown stevia and I have to say that I don't think that natural plants here as part of the natural cycle of life are toxic. Of course, anything that goes through an industrialized processing can be and often is. As well, all too often certain components are extracted from the totality of a plant. Typical of man. Also, about anything can be used for a detrimental effect if wanted, think of water, for instance. As with everything, (milk, eggs, fats, sweeteners, water, air, foods), the focus often ends up on the "bad" ones and throws everything in the same pot together. We know that fresh, raw milk from grass fed (not toxic grass) cows is actually healthy, same with eggs and everything else, yet there is no delineation between these and commercialized processed products when attacked.
I always said that about the milk debate! You cannot compare low quality pasteurized homogenized milk with raw dairy from healthy pasture grazing cows. Dairy is GOOD!
the Stevia Plant grows all over. in the southern world . It is a roadside weed..I have grown stevia and the plant is sweet...I have used leaves in teas and coffee....
\But the Fancy Worlds need to 'Doctor it Up' for the Braindead who think everything should be white and crystal white is best?? IDK
Sure does - I completely agree - and the brown liquid stevia from Stevita has good ingredients - it ain't white crystal powder so no need for processing. My A1C is 5.1 and I have Stevia to thank :)
I feel the same when they are demonizing vitamins, I know when I don't take certain supplements that I start to get sick, so, I stopped listening
You are obviously not taking synthetic vitamins. If you take supplements that are strictly from natural sources, they help. If you take industrial waste marketed as 'vitamins' you are making yourself ill.
Lady, we even have our own garden and chickens, eat local raw dairy, local sourced free range meats, we don't eat anything Industrial complex if we can help it. But according to some of these people here taking any Vitamin from any source is going to be "rat poison" or make us "sterilized", for example. I feel some people are a little overzealous in their mission. I agree with the lady who said that we weren't considering other factors, in judging supplements and how they are made. Thank you for your reminder not to be touching what we call around here, 'cabal food" or "goyslop". Hot pocket, anyone? 😂
Hang on a minute! When did I say that vitamins from ANY source is going to be 'rat' poison?
First of all, I know that no vitamin, like no virus has ever been isolated.
Secondly, I know that the best source of nutrition, no matter what it is called, is nature.
Thirdly, if all these products are so good for us, why are US and Canada, the biggest consumers, the sickest people in the world, while those in less 'advanced' nations are robust, healthy and able well into their late 90s?
Try hard not to muddy the waters by conflating things we do say with things we didn't say. No one has yet shown how people who source their food from nature and nature alone are not healthier by far then those who source their 'health' from profiteering corporations.
No need to react, I didn't say you, I said some people. And I would say largely that the sickening of Americans comes from all the chemicals in the food supply that they don't allow in other countries, I think that's pretty easy to guess. I don't think it's because of their vitamins lack of quality.
I agree with LM McCormick - there are certain synthetic vitamins/supplements I take that DO make a positive difference. As the substack author says, if it works for you, keep taking it.
Example: The LD50 (Lethal Dose that kills 50% of the animals in studies) for B1 using synthetic HCl is something like 30 grams or 30,000 mg when equated to 150lb human. But yet taken in smaller doses like human equivalent of 1 gram B1 (HCl) and combined with synthetic vitamins B3, B7 plus aspirin - these 4 items combined ERADICATED the most lethal cancers in mice within 14 days...but wait Grace...there's more! The mice were kept alive and the cancer NEVER reappeared!
So I had skin cancer on my nose, took the B1, B3, B7 and aspirin...the cancer healed.
Want to know more about this study that was done OUTSIDE the NIH, the CDC, and all the Cabal-run agencies? Youtube - Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8
...this guy actually DID the study himself...everyone else only 'quotes' studies....I invite you to consider not to throw the baby out with the bath water
Please do not misunderstand me: My modus operandi is to let other people be the guinea pigs if they should want to be. Meanwhile, I eat healthy foods that I grow myself or source from reputable farmers, because I know that the Creator provided us with everything we need long before greedy and immoral corporations came along.
To me it is only common sense that synthetic anything is never a good thing to put into one's body or to even bring into our lives.
I also have lived long enough to know that the true consequences of any product on the market that makes a corporation big profits, will eventually injure, if not kill the believer. All you need do is see how many 'wonder' products have ended up causing chronic disease and death after providing a brief period of what appeared to be 'relief'.
It may take a long time for anything synthetic to show the harm. Look at how many people swore their psych meds 'helped them' and how they now suffer brain damage (tardive dyskinesia), loss of sex drive and chronic health issues, and that is if the 'wonder' drugs did not cause them to commit suicide or homicide.
I tend to do my own 'studies'. I watch what happens to others who look for the quick fix. I had leukemia...I watched what 'experts' did to my brothers who died of leukemia and realized it was they who killed my brothers, not the leukemia. How do I know that, because I survived by going to common sense, healing homeopathics and herbs.
I don't need 'supplements'; I eat foods that provide what I need. It is really that simple a study to do.
I wish everyone the best, as it is hard to survive in the quick sand we have been forced into where practically all 'experts' make money from keeping making and keeping us sick.
I am so sorry to hear about your brother dying of leukemia. Western medicine makes trillions on cancers while slowly killing most diagnosed with cancers.
I am very familiar with leukemia also. My father was diagnosed (early) with leukemia and he was very open to alt medicine - so I took him immediately to Hippocrates Health Institute in Florida. 3 weeks later he was leukemia-free and that was 6 years ago (he is now 92 yrs old and going strong).
Hippocrates shared with us that blood diseases are among the easiest to heal with alternative natural health protocols - my father ate a super nutrient dense, calorie-poor diet for 3 weeks including multiple wheat grass shots daily and also did all the other healing modalities while there (sauna, red light therapy, hyperbaric O2, high-dose vitamin IV shots, colonics, energy medicine therapy, massage, etc.) he was in healing sessions of one kind or another all day everyday...3 weeks later he felt 15 years younger and was free of disease. It was amazing and I'm so thankful we didn't do the medical route as I am sure he would be dead by now.
It was because his family cared enough to see him through doing what needed to be done. Today, people are told to take their loved ones to the cancer clinics , so families think that's all the options there are.
When my 2nd brother was diagnosed, I went to an organic store and bought everything I knew he needed to rebuild his system and even prepared some meals ahead for him. All his wife needed to do was warm them in a conventional over (not microwave).
When I returned, he had not taken a single item -- his wife did not believe in such things and was deadly loyal to the oncologist. After I had left, she had let everything spoil and threw it all out!
I hate her to this day, and I'm not one to hate easily.
There is no need to "demonize" them. But considering the state of affairs about what "they" are claimed to be, questions needed to be asked and hopefully answered:
1) Were such things as "vitamins" ever truly discovered? Going back to foundational papers gives you a pretty good answer. There were no controlled-for methods and real science during the processes. All the methods were basically chemical manufacturing processes creating new end products that had nothing to do with anything found in food.
2) How did this shoddy 'science' become a multi-billion dollar industry driven by the pharmaceutical industry? Follow the bouncing balls...
3) How are "vitamins" made? The difference between synthetic and "whole food" can be significant, but even the latter has its issues... particularly with very sketchy and unregulated labeling.
4) Can you pull a single molecule/constituent out of a symphony of food micronutrients and have it work in isolation from everything else? Give it special attributes? The evidence is lacking.
5) When people start or stop taking drugs, they can feel positive effects (symptom reduction), or negative effects (symptom returns)...and root/underlying causes never addressed. So-called "vitamins" fit perfectly in this category.
I don't think Agent has ever told anyone to not take anything they want to or "believe in" (like a good placebo).... but best to be fully informed before walking into a decision making situation (like, especially how to decode an ingredient label or understand how products are ACTUALLY made). That isn't "demonizing".
When people stop taking drugs, the symptoms don't return. What they experience are withdrawal issues -- big difference.
For example: in order for psychiatrists to be able to keep patients on brain-damaging drugs, they tell them their 'symptoms' are returing instead of telling them the truth that they must wean off very, vry slowly and they will likely go through long and hard struggles with withdrawal symptoms. That's how addictive all these pharma products truly are.
When they get you addicted to pain meds, and when you try to wean off them, they tell you that the withdrawal symptoms are just the injury or former source of pain is coming back or acting up. It's all a massive murdering racket.
"When people stop taking drugs, the symptoms don't return. What they experience are withdrawal issues -- big difference."
Both things can be true. When you cease suppressing symptoms with drugs, the symptoms may return (even possibly worse) because the symptoms are not the root of the dis-ease and the root was never addressed, because symptom interference is downstream and is actually a healing interference . Dependency and withdrawal issues may occur too, depending on the chemicals used to try and fool the intelligent, healing body.
So far as I can tell from Agent's excellent series on how so-called vitamins are made (with industrial waste byproducts)... there is little difference between these products and your average pharmaceutical... chemicals used to create effects. Personally, I don't see why the human body would require these kinds of ingredients... or ever be "deficient" in them. People can do what they want of course. Best to know what exactly you are putting in.
Okay Farmer Pete: I followed Giorgi Dinkov based on his own private study on mice that he funded and no, there wasn't a 'placebo effect' because the mice had no idea what they were eating.
He cured them of the most lethal cancers AND kept them alive after discontinuing the vitamins to ensure the cancer never returned.
So I had skin cancer on my nose, took synthetic B1, B3, B7 and aspirin...the cancer healed. Placebo effect? Maybe...but the mice healed also. (and yes Agent ABOLUTELY demonized these vitamins complete with photos, and detailed manufacturing processes that looked scary.)
Want to know more about this study using synthetic vitamins....which was done OUTSIDE the NIH, the CDC, and all the Cabal-run agencies? Youtube - Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8
Giorgi Dinkov is genius level intelligence, not a cabal scientist, operates independently 'as a hobby' and proves his own theories using living mice. He has discovered many every-day do's and don'ts building on the bioenergetic approach which is anti-western medicine and goes against all mainstream recommendations...he healed himself after being very very ill.
All that said, I take Agent 'with a grain of salt' no matter how many gory photos he shows.........he is biased just like all of us
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I would need to go through the methods and controls of the study to reach any kind of conclusion about saving mice from cancer with synthetic "vitamins" and aspirin. Do you have it? I may not spend much time on it because a couple of the articles I pulled up citing Dinkov's work demonstrated that he has a rather 'allopathic' view of what Cancer actually is... and therefore I'm unlikely to even round 1st base with his research.
Have you read Agent's articles on the ingredients and how the B vitamins are made? I highly recommend. If after reading, you still think putting toxic garbage in your body will help you, I say go for it. Nobody is going to stop you.
Farmer Pete, yes - I read Agent's articles on synthetic vitamins, saw all the photos and videos AND I still take it with a grain of salt because of my own healing experiences and because of other indedpendent studies I follow. Now Farmer Pete - do I take synthetics regularly - NO. Do I think anyone should be taking these everyday - NO...Do I eat only whole/non-processed food only from my own garden or from my local farmers - YES.
BUT it appears that you aren't watching any Giorgi Dinkov because he is NOT allopathic (in fact allopathic meds made him sicker)...he knows more bio-chem than any expert I know and can run circles around even the brightest.
I invite you to watch him before replying back to me (LOL) If you watch Giorgi Dinkov "Sugar Doesn't Cause Cancer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXq4S2Dx_b8 - you may be surprised that you quickly discover a lot you don't already know (just sayin...)
I know it is so hard to watch something that disagrees with your mindset (i.e. cognitive dissonance) but I watch everything from ALL sides to get a better, rounded approach...I don't just watch/read stuff that agree with Agent.....
I don't mind taking in info that conflicts with something I already "believed" or think that I know...that's how I got here. The reason I asked for the publication is because I have learned how to tell if studies are bullshit or not and I don't like having to commit to video watching. From what I read in articles citing Dinkov's work, he seemed to advocated "attacking" cancer cells as if it is a war/battle/fight. This is generally an allopathic mindset about symptoms and healing.
If one gets a grasp on the concept that what we call cancer is actually a survival mechanism by the body in a last ditch effort to rid the body of toxins (often in a localized bag called a tumor), you wouldn't launch a war against it by dumping more toxins (like lab synthetic vitamins made from industrial waste byproducts) into an already overburdened cleansing system (often wrongly referred to as the "immune system" {{more war and battle talk}}. It sounds like chemo-lite. Less harmful poisons...although, I certainly don't doubt that they create an 'effect'- perhaps by temporarily redirecting the body's efforts elsewhere.
Now, if you have a convincing published paper of vitamins saving rodents from cancer, I'll have a go at it. But I have to admit, I'm skeptical because I've read through lots of this shit before.
Here is a cancer study with Dinkov's name on it.
https://www.medicalbiophysics.bg/en/31248jpri.pdf
In the study they wanted to test some patented chemical supplements to see if they helped to slow tumor growth.
They took lab bred hamsters and injected them with toxic goo to induce artificially created cancer. Right off the bat, this is a rather disturbing way to go about "sciencing".
They gave the drugs to 6 experimental groups of hamsters and none to one pre-poisoned control group. From what I can tell is the most they followed the hamsters was 55 days. Some of the drug taking hamsters lived a little longer than the control group or had reduced tumor size. Voila! Take methylene blue, benzoic acid, and Ethyl acetoacetate, and you can be just like these hamsters.
Hazardous lab created chemical concoctions called "food based supplements" are good for your health.
https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=M29125&productDescription=METHYLENE+BLUE+CERT+BIOL+25G&vendorId=VN00033897&countryCode=US&language=en
https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=A65500&productDescription=BENZOIC+ACID+ACS+500G&vendorId=VN00033897&countryCode=US&language=en
https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC220405000&productDescription=ETHYL+ACETOACETATE+99%2B%25+EXTR&vendorId=VN00032119&countryCode=US&language=en
All bottled up in a handy little liquid supplement.
https://idealabsdc.com/img/oxidal_small.jpg
I guess one could consider this 'better living through chemistry'. You can go on India Mart's website and buy the raw materials on the cheap in huge drums. Just make sure you wear a hazmat suit if you're going to mix up a batch of this chemical soup.
These are drugs. Drugs have effects.
Jeremy Nell has just done a fantastic interview with Zoe Harcombe on his Jerm Warfare podcast. She illustrates why there would be no vitamin supplements if there were not vegetarians and vegans. That is, people following those eating patterns cannot and never will be able to get essential minerals etc from the foods they eat. She sets out all the factors- an hours listening well worth the effort finding.
"They say if “famine, war, or disease” appeared the problem would be solved. (*wink, wink*)"...seems Revelations tells us that is exactly what they do
Well, I had Stevia growing in my herb bed and every year after the rains start there is a grasshopper infestation, they ate the stevia. I super appreciate your revealings and also appreciate those who comment for their balanced points of view and additional information.
"Now time grows short. History will not allow the people of Shem additional centuries, or even decades, to come to their senses and realize what is going on. Just as they have been victims of massacres and genocides for centuries, the people of Shem now face the determination of the Canaanites to exterminate them utterly and finally. a goal they hope to achieve by the end of the millenium."
The Curse of Canaan
Eustace Mullins 1987
Incredible all the foods that have artificial sweeteners in them. Gum is one. I remember trying to use the gunk in the pink packet maybe in the 1970's in my coffee...YUCK. There sure is a lot of plotting going on...in the cemetery.
Not really a surprise that Stevia is as terrible as the other fake sugars. Where do a few others like Xylitol & Monk Fruit fit into this equation, although I can probably guess. Honey and Maple Syrup are my favourites, but you mentioned you would prefer Stevia over actual Cane Sugar?
I was disturbed to discover xylitol is extremely toxic to dogs (and other animals, I presume) a fact overlooked or deliberately hidden by food manufacturers. It is apparently added in products such as yoghurt (not all but how do we know?) Just think how many times we share our food with our dependent pets. It brings tears to my eyes thinking how easily a loved pet could accidentally be poisoned.
Likely toxic to our gut and intestinal linings too as destroys good bacteria ie probiotics key to brain neuron making , especially dangerous to pregnant women who's baby's really need those good guys at birth studies show huge development damage without..ie they're after us!
I agree. We were never designed to eat trees (let alone their leaves). The fact that eating too much (!!!) has a laxative effect....that is the body getting rid of a toxin as rapidly as it can (vomiting being the only other fast method). Some people can't even eat tree nuts....also indicative that perhaps we shouldn't try to eat any other part of the tree.
Natural stevia plants are not fake sugars. but yes is sweet tasting. There are, however, a large number of products that claim to be natural stevia that aren't and as usual all of these things are lumped together. Most commercial products claiming the name "stevia" are little to nothing of the sort. Same can be said for xylitol, monk fruit, agave, and all of the others. Companies, (and the government, etc.) jump on a natural product and then beat it to death, extract, chemically treat, add this or that, remove this or that, and process it and then sell it as a natural alternative to something. This is preposterous and any one that has any knowledge at all of nature and plants and animals and has grown their own foods is well aware of this. What articles like this do is cause many non-thinkers to accept that all stevia or other truly natural plants are dangerous which is emphatically untrue. One has to remember that the health of honey, as well, depends on many, many factors. It's all in how one wants to slant something. And of course, even long, long ago "studies" were tainted intentionally and researchers both indoctrinated and fooled and/or complicit in the lies.
The more I read about these scams, the more I realize humans are a lot stronger than we realize.
We are literally poisoned 100% of the time; still we survive.
What if we all got together and walked all these corporate heads and 'scientists' to the gallows...we would be incredibly healthy, happy and wise and our planet would rejoice.
If you're smart, you do NOT want "regulated supplements." Who would be regulating them, the FDA? The FDA would just see to it that all of them are poisoned, none are effective, and that very few useful supplements exist. That isn't currently the case, there are all kinds of great supplements out there as long as you know what to look for. I don't touch drugs; supplements are a completely different world than medications.
I tried Stevia. It was so gross I threw out the big bag of it and bought organic pure cane sugar. I don't use it much anyways, but anything that doesn't come real food - don't eat it.
Stevia itself IS real food, it's a natural plant. People have a habit of lumping everything together and stevia is just another example of that.
Hyper-processed chemical garbage is what makes it to the shelf.
You can buy straight stevia from Frontier. https://www.vitacost.com/frontier-co-op-organic-stevia-herb-powdered
My understanding is that most of it, like 80%, is made in China
Good point, LM McCormick. My friend's husband was growing it in their yard. They live in Kentucky. AI says, "Stevia is a plant native to Paraguay and Brazil, but is now cultivated commercially in many countries including China, India, Kenya, and parts of the United States."
Good grief, a chemical derived from the manufacture of dynamite for sterling blokes😱 Can you imagine the headlines if it went wrong "you were only meant to blow his bloody balls off" (nod to Michael Caine) 😂
Sterilising 🤦🏻♂️
At the risk of a double post. Here is the documentary Sweet Misery. The Deadly Aspartame story.
https://soberchristiangentlemanpodcast.substack.com/p/fyidocumentary-sweet-misery-a-poisoned
I tasted a stevia leaf at a plant nursery once and it tasted exactly like the horrible artificial sweeteners do. I do not like sweetened coffee and tea and rarely drink soda so luckily it is not an issue for me.
They do not miss a beat do they?
Very interesting. I am 77 so fertility is not a problem. But, I do use the ORGANIC LIQUID STEVIA from Trader Joes. Thoughts on this particlur product?