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Decode the World's avatar

December 25th is the 3rd day after the winter solstice. It's the first day of the winter that days are noticeably getting longer. "Three days of darkness" (Dec 22-25).

This is why it was the birthday of main Roman God Sol Invictus, the Sun God. The giver of life and the God many Roman temples were dedicated to. Ditto for the Greeks with Apollo (same God, different name). Constantine, the Sun worshiper who adopted Christianity for Rome, replaced one holy day with another....substituting Jesus for Sol Invictus.

The Romans were no fools, they were moving their Empire inside a structure that could last another 2000 years called a "Church". Tax free and with a business model that could cross borders, it employed simony, the selling of indulgences and blessings as a tax on the wealthy with a sense of guilt. The religion they decided to put on the banner was Christianity. Now you know why Jesus was "born" on December 25th.

The merchants say "What a friend we have in Jesus" as they count their money after Christmas.

mary-lou's avatar

Christianity appropriated some of the most powerful symbols and celebrations from other cultures and earlier times. thus easter being an important moment in the agricultural calender, celebrating the return of the position of the sun after the dark months of winter (spring equinox); other deties allegedly born on December 25th, including Horus, Dionysos, Mithras; in English-speaking countries, the very name Easter reveals its pagan past: "... While most of Europe calls it Pascha, rooted in the Jewish Passover (Pesach), the Anglo-Saxon tradition refers back to Δ’ostre, or Ostara, a Germanic goddess of spring and dawn [...] described as a deity honoured during spring festivals, with the hare as her sacred animal...".

early Christians clashed bitterly with existing pagan societies, which were ultimately destroyed, over who held the β€œtrue” story of resurrection..." - https://www.utterlyinteresting.com/post/the-pagan-history-of-easter-what-it-was-before-christianity-arrived

Jason's avatar

That’s one way of looking at it. Another is that Christianity was taken over by the Roman Empire and overlaid (or underlaid) with their pagan religion, corrupting its message. In other words Christianity was appropriated, not the other way around.

mary-lou's avatar

Empire, Roman or otherwise, ultimately destroyed local, so-called 'pagan' or, worse, 'heretic' expressions of religion, including other, non-Church affiliated Christian movements. perhaps look up the incredibly violent, late-11th C. first crusade directed against the Albigensians in southern France - https://www.worldhistory.org/Albigensian_Crusade/

Roger Beal's avatar

I've understood "easter" to be parallel to "estrus", both signifying (re)birth.

CD's avatar

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Susie's avatar

CD - what do your yellow and brown pineapples mean?

KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Those are clapping hands πŸ‘πŸ»

CD's avatar

Lol. Yes, thank you.

Clapping hands in every color available.

Thqrlene LakesMathis's avatar

they have us in a Pagan cult, thats what christianity means, religions etc.

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

So, is Christianity the enemy?

Steveo's avatar

Dec 25th, nimrods birthday. The only other human to e er come back to life, albeit through magic. He challenged God, he was cur into pieces and spread throughout the world. His wife got everything but his penis, therefore the tree.

Doug's avatar

I don't no more so much but for me it is that idea it is a Pagan Holiday, and has nothing to do with Christ being born. Trees are Pagan yule log pagan, Decorations Pagan etc...

But also in my own research it's Tamazez Birthday Dec 25th is NImrods and Semiramises sons birthday. Read what it says in Ezekiel 8 KJV why would that be??? Plus too yeah it is Satan we worship with Halloween too... Satan and Santa are just reversed letters but are the same. Jesus wasn't about gift giving other than the holy spirit and gifts from it. He does say ask and receive and will give us secular gifts but that's not what we're to be about as a Christian. Only Santa, Satan is the one who gives us all we want or might ask for like in Christmas. ALl the gifts are all secular in design the boxes the toys etc... Who's he aiming at I wonder? Toys is the hint. Souls of children so they fry too. Don't say they don't because the Next chapter after Ezekiel 8 read what it says in Ezekiel 9. Why target something if they're sanctified and can't be touched any how it's a waste of time. But if they aren't like were all taught then Satan is targeting children too as well.

Gifts by loyalty just like Easter does it's also a Pagan holiday as well. Easter comes from the word Ishtar which is a Pagan God or the whore pictured in a Babylonian image. Satan has kids coming and gong with Halloween, Christmas, and Easter. He's bought their loyalty and parents letting it happen. Which is why it say in scripture that gifts pervert, and to not take them. Not going to become a Jehovah Witness or anything but yeah it's all crap and to take souls with Satan to the lake of fire.

I used to even recently love decorating for Halloween and Christmas but the last time I did just before Nov of 2020 and just before my v2k came back after a 20 year or more Hiatus I began to see the skeletons and our big air balloon guy we had up that year as a demon and not liking it. Not long after this my v2k came back and since then I hate Halloween plus all the Holidays now.

Plus odd I got one of those cartoon books put on my car with how bad Halloween is and why it worships Satan. I am sure a Jehovah Witness must have placed it there on purpose but still it awakened in me a disgust of the Holiday. Then finding out that it's not Christs birthday and it's Nimrods sons birthday which goes along with all your saying about the illiminati and all that yeah other than a dinner I don't like decorations at all no more. Thanksgiving I like still it's just food. Don't think it has anything to do with Pagans but it may and if so I may still have the dinner but no good feelings no more. I don't even like the fourth of July no more knowing how crooked the FBI and CIA are and there isn't any true patriotism any more and none worth it if so. Knowing too, the pledge of allegiance was created by a Socialist makes me sick. Operation Paper clip, and bringing all those Nazi scientists over here and then letting them make their shit here like they did for Germany Yeah uh no fuck our country until Gangstalking and v2k and the TSDB lists and the stassi state is destroyed with AI and the nano bots that in our shots the covid shots have nano bots in them along with Anesthetics from dentistry. Subscribe to DR Len Ber and Dr Anna Melacia and see what I mean it's all about transhumanism. Merging us with AI and is what v2k is about more than just revenge or trying to punish you for something you didn't do or they think you did or it just don't matter because their evil any how. If you commit suicide that's a bonus to them from v2k and or end up in jail or a mental ward or just dead that's ok to them but it's to socially engineer us and to accept the NWO and nano bots and change our DNA using Frequencies.

Miss Parker's avatar

Great comprehensive comment, Doug.

Might I offer the correct spelling of Dr. Ana Mihalcea and link?

anamihalceamdphd.substack.com

Doug's avatar

Sorry I never know how to spell it. I figure if I get close that's good enough!

Susie's avatar

Miss - No one call spell Ana's name. I won't even try.

Miss Parker's avatar

Funny and true. For some unknown reason, I memorized the spelling of her name but had to verify it twice for the link above and still can't pronounce it very well. She's very forgiving of such, isn't she?

Susie's avatar

Ana has done remarkable research and I have seen her videos and articles. But I can't spell her last name.

Palamambron's avatar

Pagan to me doesn't imply evil whatsoever. All of classical poetry and philosophy is pagan. Goodness predates Christianity in Britain and everywhere else. The Philistine succeeds by driving a wedge between pagans and Christians. When Hercules killed the two British giants (sons of Poseidon) he prevailed only because he was eloquent in prayer before his father god Zeus. Jesus was also eloquent in prayer before our father God in the Garden of Gethsemane. These were poetic illustrations of the power of eloquence. When St. Patrick burned the antiquities of Ireland, histories written in Ogham, what was destroyed would have corroborated both Christianity and Paganism, and revealed a poetic symbolism common to both. The Philistine accuses the pagan of ritual atrocities, but they are lying. The Philistine priests are the only ones doing ritual atrocities. The Druids and Bards were forbidden to carry weapons. Read your Hawthorne, Young Goodman Brown. It's our literary and poetic gifts that make us free Christians in a Philistine world. There must be separate categories for what is pagan and what is Philistine/Caananite/Phoenician.

Open The Arcanum's avatar

You should look into the etymology of the word 'pagan' and where it comes from if you haven't already. It just means an outsider that doesn't follow the Roman culture or traditions which they imposed on people in the empire.

Palamambron's avatar

No I wasn't aware of that but it makes perfect sense. In Greece, paganism is an official religion. That's the most immediate thing the word pagan means in my mind, worship of the old Greco/Roman pantheon. The same pantheon has Scottish/Norse/Germanic names. That is one thing that the Roman Catholic Church wanted to obscure when they burned the Irish antiquities. Also, they wanted to obscure the secret meaning of the Homeric poems. John Toland teaches about this in his book on the Celtic Antiquities.

Open The Arcanum's avatar

Thanks, I'll have a look at John Toland's book about the Celtic Antiquities.

The irony is the Roman Catholic church is a pagan sun worshipping religion.

Palamambron's avatar

It seems to me that Rome was subverted by the same cult that formed the Catholic religion. Canaanites/Philistines. You know, the devil. When Rome fell, it fell morally and ethically. It was subverted by its enemies who introduced every kind of perversion and wrong practice. Reminds me of pre-Nazi Germany, and the whole Western world today. We are being undermined by a Satanic cult.

Open The Arcanum's avatar

Yeah I do agree with you that Rome was subverted, after the world-wide re-set. I think they added 1000 years to the original timeline. Doesn't make sense that they would build all these magnificent buildings that took free energy from the ether and be morally wicked at the same time.

Susie's avatar

Doug - Sorry to hear about your v2k (voice to skull, I think you mean). And I agree with you about the holiday traditions year-round. We need to realize what our actions are telling those around us.

Put up a Christmas tree? What is the meaning of it? What does it represent?

Thqrlene LakesMathis's avatar

& pagans also call themselves 'christians', that's not in YAHuahs vocabulary either. Nor religion, America the% is a Roman Pagan cult, why we will be destroyed & serving other gods, no jesus, derived from Iesous, Esus. No 'j' in alphabet till the 1500's. Our Father is Hebrew, not the jew they have portrayed & changed His name to other gods of evil bloodlines. We been taught what they want us to know.

John Visher's avatar

Christmas is the most conflicted holiday. The glomming together of the birthday(or is it?!) of Christ, our spiritual messenger from God and Nature and the Dreamtime, with a bunch of crappy man made expensive(slavery?) things from the hot calculating brain of Lucifer.

Jesus and Lucifer do not dance harmoniously in any dream I can dream.

Susie's avatar

What's crazy is the number of churches who celebrate this pagan holiday called Christmas. They put up a big tree and lots of decorations inside; they hold Christmas events.

I can't go to those churches anymore. They force themselves to believe that this is Jesus' birthday. They close their eyes to the truth and don't do any research into the subject.

KMD's avatar

I still like Christmas because of the astetics and how it looks...not what they say it means.

Susie's avatar

Everything we do in our daily lives has a meaning. And no, Santa Claus isn't watching us, but God is watching.

Frank Dee's avatar

And Satan will try with AI.

KMD's avatar

Your God is watching alright. Your all powerful God watches billions die at the hands of the very people he created...

Susie's avatar

When I look at the activities and decorations of Christmas, I ask myself, "What is the meaning of this? What does it have to do with Jesus Christ's birth?"

Most times, it has NOTHING to do with Jesus. It's just tradition and ritual.

Trudy Anrep's avatar

Never put an unholy Tree up and Jesus Christ wasn't even born at Christmas , it was more likely August many say, when the Shepherds attended their Sheep/Flock at Night ,which they only did in warmer Summer Months in Northern Hemisphere

denise ward's avatar

Was he even a real being?

Carol Guajardo's avatar

This is why research is important. He may not have been. Since Satan has been in control, anything goes.

Our Bibles were tampered with which leads to many questions. If the book of Genesis is not translated properly, it changes everything we thought we knew. Like Elohim is used in place of God. Elohim is not God. Elohim is plural. Some Bibles put that in the first sentence of Genesis. That would translate as many gods. Just like the verse that says...And God said, singular, ..Let us make man in our image.. Who is us and our? Many people don't question that.

Roger Beal's avatar

According to students of the apocryphal books, principally 1 Enoch, YHWH was one of many elohim, and the one who eventually defeated the other gods. YHWH assigned "the nations" - essentially all the peoples who were not part of YHWH's chosen Israel - to those other gods. YHWH kept Israel as "his" people.

A very good overview of the events of the inter-testamental period, the second temple years of Israel, is "Reversing Hermon" by Dr. Michael Heiser. He exposits the events described by Enoch to clarify Genesis 6, the story of angels coming to earth (via Mount Hermon), taking humans as wives who later birthed giants (the nephilim), and the demons who were released on earth when those giants were slayed.

Jesus knew there were (and are) demons; He cast them out of many humans during His years on earth. The apostle Paul knew that fallen angels endangered human women; that's why he instructs women to protect themselves by covering their heads in church, in 1 Corinthians 11:10.

summer's avatar

I was told years ago that Jesus (if he ever even lived) was born a pisces, with his disciples each representing an astrological sign, and Judas was the other pisces. Thus the fish sign being widely used to represent christianity.

Trudy Anrep's avatar

It depends how you interpret the Shepherds tending to their flock at night, it had to be warm as they housed the Sheep indoors in Winter ,which is December in that region, so it could have been late spring to early autumn.

summer's avatar

We are so well indoctrinated to think that december is winter as we know it, what a joke all those nativity scenes with snow! The climate of Israel is/was nothing like that. It is/was a hot arid dry place, and sheep would not be indoors at any time of the year, that's the great thing about sheep, they are so hardy and come with such a thick waterproof coat that they do not require any kind of shelter, and only rough pasture and forage to survive.

Trudy Anrep's avatar

Winter Nights are cold there ,the Shepherd's took the Sheep into Caves or Stone built Shelters or lower places down the Mountains and lit Fires to watch the Herds for predation.

Open The Arcanum's avatar

He was born of a virgin, and the fish symbol represent Jesus. So in this sense it could be Virgo since his mother was the holy virgin and Pisces is opposite Virgo on the axis.

Trudy Anrep's avatar

Also, it was in Roman Census times which would have been spring or autumn

Trudy Anrep's avatar

Could be, they don't really know if it was Autumn or Spring, but it wasn't in the Northern Hemisphers Winter December as the Catholic Church created .

summer's avatar

And lambs are usually born at that time of year.

Sterling's avatar

If trees are unholy than this is truly Hell. Or maybe that's just a dumb thing to say.

Trudy Anrep's avatar

It's not the Trees themselves they are beautiful, it's the Symolism of what displaying a Tree at Saturnalia/Christmas represents and it's Pagan origins .

Susie's avatar

What the hell is everyone celebrating at Christmas? It certainly isn't the birthday of Jesus. What birthday gifts do they offer to Jesus on December 25th?

None, you say? They give gifts to each other?

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Does it matter what or even if they celebrate anything, if it brings remote family members and friends together once a year?

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Jennie Gibson's avatar

I believe it was April 6 and I totally agree and think I should celebrate his birthday and mission every day of the year.

Susie's avatar

Jennie - Good idea. Let's celebrate today by doing something special.

Debra Timmerman's avatar

There's alot of merit to it possibly being Sept. 11. The dark side certainly believe this to be so.

Susie's avatar

Zihna - Nope, no proof of any specific date has ever been proven.

So we thank the people who have done the historical research to find the Christmas origin, like Agent 131711 has done here.

Jennie Gibson's avatar

This is a very interesting article. I knew much of this before, and I think it Is worthwhile to consider it. I think Christmas (and Easter) is what we make it. If the intent of our hearts is to glorify Christ, then good will come of our celebration. We can use it as an opportunity to do good and spread love and of course enjoy beautiful sacred music and church services. When I had young children many years ago, I chose to tell them their gifts were from people who loved them. I don't think they enjoyed the experience any less. Christmas can be a time of healing.

Susie's avatar

God is watching when we put up a Christmas tree in our home as the heathen do (Jeremiah 10:4) - King James Bible:

"They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not."

Rosy Moonrise's avatar

Great article, I knew Santa and the rest was all made up but didn't know who did it. I live in rural appalachia and heard the old stories of how "christmas" used to be celebrated by drinking whiskey, shooting guns, setting off firecrackers, and listening to preachers in the middle of the woods. It wasn't until a "civilized" preacher named Bob Childress came that people slowly stopped doing all that. We kept on setting off firecrackers every christmas morning though, until it became illegal to purchase them. All through my childhood we'd get up early on christmas to set off firecrackers and we could hear everyone else in the hills and valleys also setting theirs off. I miss that.

Maureen Hanf's avatar

Sounds like it was fun! Born and raised in the pacific northwest, so missed all that stuff. Only thing they used to do which is mostly gone now is setting off firecrackers for new years eve.

Roger Beal's avatar

I was born and raised in "the Paris of Appalachia", Pittsburgh. Decades ago the mills would all blow their steam whistles at midnight Christmas Eve.

Joe Kraimer's avatar

I recommend attending a Traditional Latin Mass on midnight Christmas. Beautiful, reverent and holy. If you're not Christian, you can attend as a spectator of a sort of kabuki drama while listening to classical music in candle light. As a Christian you would appreciate the deep theology. Commercialized Christmas is gaudy, kitsch, fake.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDUq8k9PF2W/?img_index=1

Maureen Hanf's avatar

Thank you. Not Catholic but sounds very reflective, the opposite of commercialism.

Tammi's avatar

I stopped celebrating Christmas years ago after a lifetime of beautiful decorations and over indulgent gifts. Interestingly, I stopped celebrating Christmas when I had my spiritual awakening. My spiritual awakening came shortly after I β€˜woke up’ to the lies pushed everywhere in our reality. It is interesting how closed people are to learning the truth about any given lie that’s been pushed on us. Christmas is a perfect example. Try telling a church lady the satanic pagan background of Christmas and they will treat you like you just asked them to stop eating sugar. Interestingly, non church people have a similar reaction. They all believe different things about God yet they cling to β€˜the holiday season’ like it is this special thing to be protected. I see not celebrating Christmas (and Easter) as a bold statement to everyone that I won’t play along with society’s games and rituals. Sometimes it seems like my husband and I are the only ones who live the way we do (being apart from the world in all ways) and it’s hard sometimes. But, we are better for it. Healthier, wealthier, and happier. And, reading the comments here show me we are not alone. Many, including Agent, were led to stop celebrating Christmas and our lives are better for it. My hubs and I choose to do random acts of kindness when we are led to do it anytime of the year and this fills our soul with peace and happiness that cannot compare to the fake joy pushed in the fake holiday of Christmas.

summer's avatar

My husband and i are with you on all counts, and yes it is a lonely life for us surrounded by sleepers, both materially and spiritually, but far preferable than pretending to believe in all the programming and lies just to be accepted. Some 40 years ago when my kids were young i learned the truth about christmas and thus we celebrated the solstice on the 21st, as humans have done for millennia. To me this time -- when the new sun was born -- signified the beginning of a new year, a time for reflecting on the past year and what we wanted to bring into our lives in the upcoming year. Thus we had our own nature-based rituals and ceremonies. Thankfully we chose to never have television, but still the societal and peer pressure around christmas was a little hard on the kids, but they survived and were better for it all.

Monica's avatar

Yup! I too stopped celebrating holidays in 2017!! I made some videos on my Rumble channel and put them in a playlist..

https://rumble.com/playlists/Byo-fJy_gsY

Susie's avatar

Monica - Looks like a great channel. I will subscribe and "like" the videos. Thanks!

Monica's avatar

Hello SusieπŸ™‹πŸ»β€β™€οΈ. Thank you. That’s just 1 of my 10 rumble channels and I have, probably, 10 playlists on topics to make it easier for viewers/subscribers to watch videos all in one place.

Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Isn't the most important thing about Christmas what it means to the "little ones"?

In the German cultural hemisphere, it is not Santa, but the little Jesus, who is bringing the presents to children. St. Nicholas Day is December 6th.

People who otherwise never meet get together and at least pretend to care for each other.

ClearMiddle's avatar

"Who knew Christmas would end up being such a crazy rabbit hole?": My mother and I gave it up in 1964. I know of pastors that gingerly steer around it, not wanting to lose people. Likewise Easter. "The Church" is a terrible mess, but buried within the mess are things well worth hanging on to.

As I've written elsewhere, it's more like a mission field than a light in the darkness -- many of the "saved" are in need of saving -- and this has been especially true from Constantine onward, although the problems reach all the way back to the 1st century and are quite evident in the epistles, revolving around immersion in the culture. You are researching culture and how it is manipulated.

Some of this material of yours is familiar to me, and some is new. I don't research the subject any longer, having other matters to look into now. My direct participation in either of these holidays, beyond showing up on Sundays (another potential rabbit hole), is minimal, and when others ask about that I tell them why, factually, and leave it at that. It's a mission.

One thing I don't understand is how you could come this far without mentioning Hallmark. But maybe it's coming up?

Susie's avatar

I don't believe that December 25th is the exact birthdate of Jesus Christ.

My King James bible doesn't mention the date Jesus was born nor that we should celebrate it every year.

I plan to send out about six Christmas cards this year and of course, I always send a gift to my two grown children since they DO celebrate it.

CD's avatar

Another source states that the "little globes" that hang from the tree depict decapitated soldiers' heads. πŸͺ–πŸ’€

Miss Parker's avatar

OMG. Who knows, but could be true in the occult world of inversion where down is up.