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Part IV — Lawyers, Bankers, and the Machinery of Debt: The Fusion of Law and Finance

As I moved deeper into the history of the legal profession, I found myself encountering a recurring truth—one that historians often acknowledge in hushed tones but rarely confront openly: the story of lawyers cannot be separated from the story of bankers. Their histories are intertwined, their fortunes interdependent, and their influence mutually reinforcing. Once lawyers mastered the art of creating artificial legal persons, bankers discovered they could use those paper entities to build an entirely new world—one constructed not from stone or blood, but from debt, obligation, and perpetual financial dependence.

It is impossible to grasp the modern legal system without understanding that lawyers and bankers formed a single class of administrators who oversaw the transition from the old world of landholding kings to the new world of corporate states. The professions differ in costume, vocabulary, and social presentation, but their power springs from the same source: control over paper.

And debt, after all, is the most powerful form of paper humanity has ever known.

The Rise of Promise-Paper and the Marriage of Law and Finance….

Read more link:

https://prosepma.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?p=322#p322

Citizen Kane's avatar

Lawyers and bankers are indeed intertwined. What association does ABA stand for?

American Bankers Association

American Bar Association

A judge sits on “the bench”. What does bench mean in Latin?

Bench = Bank

Jean-Sebastien Savard's avatar

Good evening my man! We lurking in the same corner of substack as always lol 👍

You know what is even more entertwined then the bankers and layers? The freemasons and christian 😉

Thus it is impossible to grasp the modern religion system without understanding their merging from the the deeper root. Not york of 1700 ,but mysteries of 70 AD 🙈🙉🙊

Nothing is impossible to understand and grasp its essence

Faith after sll, is the most powerfull form of understanding

Good evening my friend

KMD's avatar

Here's another left field reason behind a tax on labor and the conflict of wheather it's a legal right of the government to do so and to examine if this issue was actually ratified by the states in 1913. There's too much controversy about wheather or not it was a legitimate vote. It's wrapped in smoke and mirrors.

That issue sounds purposely done to hide truth by making the issue complex by running narratives that twist and turn.

I see this as evidence of a potential fraud because that characteristic of complexity over an issue that should be clear and without doubt, is shrouded by different narratives making it unclear and ambiguous.

What I'm going to say is this. It was set up this way for the soul purpose of extracting taxes on labor alone. We use their legal arguments against them with regard to taxation on income that is by definition not a gain. Labor is an equal exchange of labor for pay...there is no gain, it's equal.

So, basically. It was set up purposely to avoid the idea of tariffs like before that funded the government. They knew extracting money from labor would generate far more money. They illegally fooled the population at gun point to agree with this under duress and threat of retaliation.

Millions who were stolen from are either dead or still being stolen from. The dead will never be made whole from this crime against humanity.

If this issue is not addressed from A to Z with regard to blatant crimes against humanity, people better DEMAND JUSTICE or lose your life and freedom. Absolute accountability in every corner of the world must be held accountable and PAY-PAY-PAY back what was stolen, including the money from the dead or this shit will continue.

denise ward's avatar

Any attention we give them, they know we are feeding them. By contrast, any energy we give the new world we would love to live in, is missing out.

Sunny Ann's avatar

I agree 💯! Being a formal journalist it’s hard not to read the haps on a daily basis but even the “alternative” sources seem to be stuck on covering the “talkie drama” instead of doing deep dives like this author on Substack. Over the past few years it feels like we collectively just talk about the problems without covering solutions- inherently giving our power to the covert criminal system, the useful idiots who live to support it, and the many chefs who created it. That being said, if a building is on fire, and in the middle of collapse, it is a fools errand to run inside and try to save it. But if you save your energy, go do something productive (collectively is best) and let it burn and collapse - it will be a mess left to be cleaned up with the knowledge left of how not to recreate the system of towering carnage again. Sun Tsu had a few good quotes on this topic🤓

“He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious".

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting".

Sunny Ann's avatar

The grift is real!

Daryl Landis's avatar

Anything stolen - the thieves have no legal claim to - What did they catch Al Capone on? Federal Income Tax evasion... How does one owe taxes on illegal activity? Yet Good old blind justice bent to fit! Just read the book, "The Rothchilds," Family portrait by Ferderic Morton. WOW, their wealth grows and the family grows. It states, on page 42, "From 1810 on, and to this very hour, the family would buy and sell MONEY ONLY." There are currently three countries without Central Banks. They are all evil countries with ruthless dictators (North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba) How dare they not fund the thieving bankers. Okay, follow Agent's line of thought here... The Fed has created 38 trillion out of Fricking nothing and we pay the interest based on the deception of voluntary taxes. Anything stolen gives the thief NO title. (Learned that in my overpriced Business law class lol). So, we are conditioned to use our own credit on all levels to finance their lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless! This system works on deception, shame, fear and the madness of following the crowd. (Tattoos and Beards). So, in sum, the bankers, using our credit, create our loans out of thin air and rake in the interest. Imagine that return (thinking like a Rothchild). Oh, by the way, DOGE is disbanded. Revelation of the method... ritual mocking of the victim as we are told Social Security is running out. Interesting fact (did not know this) but PA Governor Rendell tried to least the PA Turnpike to Private interests. (I live here and never heard about this). Would he get a fee/Commission on the 13 billion he tried to get for "PA"???? Did anyone notice, that we as a mere Humans, not possessing a doctorate; we can not understand the depth of the disciplines and therefore must rely on experts.

Agent thank you for your work... Feel like I am in the Matrix.

Citizen Kane's avatar

There is a claim among legal researchers of our type that members of the judiciary, whether state or federal, are foreign to us, and we are foreign to them. And the real estate (land) that belongs to the judiciary (their property) is foreign land to us.

I never expected to see real world evidence supporting this claim. Then I had the displeasure of being required to appear in Fairfax County Court in Fairfax, Virginia. Upon arriving to the judicial complex by POV, I follow the signs to the designated public parking garage. At the entrance to the parking garage, boldy printed on a large metal sign it stated that to park a vehicle we are required to pay a TARIFF. Not a fee or a rate. A TARIFF. I looked up the legal definition of “tariff”. To my surprise, or lack thereof, I’m not sure, I found several definitions, and they all pertained to a tax or fee etc. being applied to something FOREIGN. I did have the presance of mind to snap a couple pictures. Pretty weird.

Bill Poindexter's avatar

I decided a long time ago I wasn’t gonna pay income tax. There’s ways around it. But it just comes down to saying no. I never understood it as a kid because everybody seem confused by it and nobody could explain where the money goes. And as an adult, a young adult working and get my paycheck and so much was taken out and then they would give it back to you after after April 15 of the next year… That didn’t make any sense. The Fuckery is intense. Would be happy to interview with you. I remember the last two years during Biden‘s administration. There were threats that the IRS was getting ready to hire something like 70,000 more agents and they were going to give them firearms training? Talk about fear and intimidation. Don’t pay your taxes they can’t do anything to you exceptharass you a little bit.

This is good reporting.

I’ll be sending you some money shortly in pursuit of IRS code 8972… ;)

denise ward's avatar

There are ways to "make things go away". I have read that every time we pay a fine or obey a rule such as paying for registration, etc, the agency or department gets a big sum from your straw man trust account. So every time we obey, it actually gives the thieves the score (in the game)

lagertha swe's avatar

Did you ever pay? Meaning, did you ever 'volunteer' w a 1040 in your life? I ask bc I know someone who hasn't had a 'real' job yet and has never filed - if they never file, they haven't volunteered. So I would suspect they are not taxpayers.

SoloD's avatar

PREAMBLE

TODAY it is a well-known and easily demonstrable fact that the members of the US Congress and the State Legislatures do not read, evaluate or debate any of the particulars of the Legislation they vote on.

They cannot read or debate the issues because on average, NINE THOUSAND new bills are introduced each year at a rate of fifty-five per day and each Bill can approach 800 pages of content or more.

Since no one can evaluate FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND pages of Law Speak per day, the elected representative is forced to vote “as per the suggestion of staff”.

Our Constitutions call for ‘representative government of the people, by the people and for the people’. They do not call for ‘government by staff (permanent bureaucracy) recommendation’.

THEREFORE

In order to remedy the UNCONSTITUTIONAL WORKING OF THE GOVERNMENT, it is time to use the available technology of computers for the distribution of the text, and artificial intelligence (AI) for the aggregation of the decisions of up to FIFTY THOUSAND interested, responsible and qualified Citizens per Congressional district, herein referred to as AMPLIFIED VOTERS (AV) to give The People and all of Humanity the opportunity to solve their Governmental problems.

PROPOSAL

A Constitutional Amendment to Accommodate at Least 50 Thousand Citizen Representatives per Congressional District Who Will Actually Read and Evaluate the Existing and Proposed Laws for the Purpose of Ratification or Annulment of Each and Every Line of Law and the Accompanying Enabling Legislation for the Purpose of Perfecting The Law for and in Behalf of The Citizens of the Country.

Each AV will “read” at least approximately ten pages of the existing law or proposed bill, and indicate “ratification, annulment or further clarification required” of each line/sentence of text. Artificial Intelligence will aggregate the results in real time to ratify or annul the whole.

Enforcement cannot be effected without ratification.

What are the qualifications of the AMPLIFIED CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES?

# 1. Who gets to participate as an Amplified Voter ?

a. citizens only - Yes No

b. natural born citizens only - Yes No

c. natural born citizens with four natural born grandparents - Yes No

d. naturalized citizens (legal immigrants) - Yes No

e. legal immigrants not yet naturalized - Yes No

f. anyone with a drivers license – Yes - No

g. anyone that wants to - Yes - No

denise ward's avatar

First order of action is to make electorates equal in number in order to give equal value to each vote.

Next is put up a website that allows any person to

1. Make proposals and

2. Vote on other's proposals.

And it's all done on a free speech platform.

Anyone can be in this, it would be the people's voice.

It would have protocols to meet such as there must be a quorum.

Individuals within the electorate (after new electorates have been established to ensure equality of value to each vote) either submit proposals or engage in the proposals of others.

Voting for people becomes superseded by voting for proposals.

The people vote on proposals that determine the percentage that must vote in a proposal, in other words, a quorum.

A high percentage of the quorum must vote approval for the proposal to go into implementation.

If you can see anything wrong with this outline, please comment.

We get started by making proposals right now, then working together to achieve them if they resonate with an individual.

And that's how we start building the new world opus.

SoloD's avatar

Dear Mr. / Madam Trustee / City Councilor / County Commissioner

I write to you today in a sincere effort to help you accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.

That is to help you facilitate the betterment of the education and civil infrastructure we all hope to provide to our children and young people.

To do this you must use your power as a publicly elected representative and get your agency’s IT people to put the text to the action items being decided, at the next Board meeting, onto your agency’s web portal.

The text should be configured to allow each sentence / paragraph / concept to be evaluated into at least four possibilities: agree, disagree, no opinion at this time, other (one hundred words or less).

Your constituents, the thousands of concerned parents you solemnly stood before when asking for their vote of confidence, can now participate with you in solving the most complicated and vexing situations you will ever face in this capacity.

Direct democracy is a growing trend, and many companies offer these services: hosting, voter receipts, and a running tally of totals for everyone to see.

By seeking the cooperation of your constituents at this level you will become known and get to know a lot of good, decent and solid people, and you will accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.

Madam Trustee, as night follows the day, you are assured that you will always have the great strength of the community with you when putting into play the programs and policies that really do affect the lives of our people and community.

Vty,

Helpful Taxpayer Citizen

Hosting Companies:

https://teletownhall.com/products/text-to-online-surveys/

https://publicinput.com/wp/online-town-hall/

https://www.govtech.com/archive/introducing-the-21st-century-city-hall.html

SoloD's avatar

PROPOSAL

A Constitutional Amendment to Accommodate at Least 50 Thousand Citizen Representatives per Congressional District Who Will Actually Read and Evaluate the Existing and Proposed Laws for the Purpose of Ratification or Annulment of Each and Every Line of Law and the Accompanying Enabling Legislation for the Purpose of Perfecting The Law for and in Behalf of The Citizens of the Country.

Each AV will “read” at least approximately ten pages of the existing law or proposed bill, and indicate “ratification, annulment or further clarification required” of each line/sentence of text. Artificial Intelligence will aggregate the results in real time to ratify or annul the whole.

Enforcement cannot be effected without ratification.

What are the qualifications of the AMPLIFIED CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES?

# 1. Who gets to participate as an Amplified Voter ?

a. citizens only - Yes No

b. natural born citizens only - Yes No

c. natural born citizens with four natural born grandparents - Yes No

d. naturalized citizens (legal immigrants) - Yes No

e. legal immigrants not yet naturalized - Yes No

f. anyone with a drivers license – Yes - No

g. anyone that wants to - Yes - No

# 2. Ages of Amplified Voter

h. minimum18 years

i. minimum 21 years

j. minimum 25 years

k. minimum 30 years

l. minimum 33 years

m. minimum 35 years

# 3. Sex of Amplified Voter

a. Male – Yes - No

b. Female – Yes - No

# 4. Financial Competence of Amplified Voter

c. property owners net value over $50,000 - Yes - No

d. property owners net value over $250,000 - Yes - No

e. tax exempt persons – Yes - No

f. those receiving welfare / food stamps – Yes - No

g. those with unpaid child support obligations - Yes - No

h. those receiving WIC – Yes - No

i. those receiving Section 8 – Yes - No

j. those working for government bureaucracies – Yes - No

k. those that will pay a $5000 poll tax - Yes - No

l. those that have paid a minimum of $5000 per year of tax for their combined jurisdictions in excess of any received via SS, Medicare, Medicaid, ATFWDC - Yes - No

# 5. Genetic presence of Amplified Voter

a. Male without children – Yes - No

b. Male with children – Yes - No

c. Male with children plural vote – Yes - No

d. Female without children – Yes - No

e. Female with children – Yes - No

f. Female with children plural vote – Yes - No

g. Only married males with children, never divorced can vote. – Yes - No

https://sensiblesafeguards.org/cra119/

denise ward's avatar

Because we live n this world in the way only man designed, the very idea of voting for a person is all we can see. And of course this doesn't work. A document of pledge, or allegiance such as a constitution needs to be dynamic not static as constitutions have so far only ever been. It's easy to have a dynamic constitution simply by people voting on proposals and not people or so-called "representatives". What could be better? That means you get to make any proposals you like and I do, so long as it meets the criteria of numbers, meaning receives a vast majority of approvals. All this need to have a properly-constructed infrastructure that could be arranged within a couple of weeks. It's easy now with technology - we don't need to do things the old, slow and stupid way.

denise ward's avatar

It's pretty obvious by now that a 2-dimensional paper cannot possibly be held above our own will.

SoloD's avatar

Can you elaborate a little on this .....

denise ward's avatar

That was a but roughly worded. What I mean to say is we are multi dimensional. Laws are 2-dimentional. So why would multi-dimensional beings shrink themselves to a 2-dimensional adherence? Whatever is put into words on paper, cannot come anywhere near "real" life, the complexity of it, the sheer possibilities that cannot be predicted beforehand. It's absurd to think law ought to be observed especially when the observant have had no hand in its construction.

denise ward's avatar

Please see my comment above for the synopsis of such a system.

SoloD's avatar

Dear Mr. / Madam Trustee / City Councilor / County Commissioner

I write to you today in a sincere effort to help you accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.

That is to help you facilitate the betterment of the education and civil infrastructure we all hope to provide to our children and young people.

To do this you must use your power as a publicly elected representative and get your agency’s IT people to put the text to the action items being decided, at the next Board meeting, onto your agency’s web portal.

The text should be configured to allow each sentence / paragraph / concept to be evaluated into at least four possibilities: agree, disagree, no opinion at this time, other (one hundred words or less).

Your constituents, the thousands of concerned parents you solemnly stood before when asking for their vote of confidence, can now participate with you in solving the most complicated and vexing situations you will ever face in this capacity.

Direct democracy is a growing trend, and many companies offer these services: hosting, voter receipts, and a running tally of totals for everyone to see.

By seeking the cooperation of your constituents at this level you will become known and get to know a lot of good, decent and solid people, and you will accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.

Madam Trustee, as night follows the day, you are assured that you will always have the great strength of the community with you when putting into play the programs and policies that really do affect the lives of our people and community.

Vty,

Helpful Taxpayer Citizen

Hosting Companies:

https://teletownhall.com/products/text-to-online-surveys/

https://publicinput.com/wp/online-town-hall/

https://www.govtech.com/archive/introducing-the-21st-century-city-hall.html

denise ward's avatar

I appreciate you put some thought into this however it falls down the minute you address it to someone you hold higher than yourself. Rather address it to the public, your brothers and sisters who are in action with you, to build a beautiful world.

Citizen Kane's avatar

I would love to see a break down of where these legislative proposals are originating from.

SoloD's avatar

Just write to your congressman and ask him for the list they are voting on today. Everything is there.

denise ward's avatar

Again, quite happy to have a daddy congressman instead of talking about the points for us - we the people. Forget about daddy, we're grown ups now.

SoloD's avatar

Will you translate this for me?

Jeffery Jefderson's avatar

The power companies are harnessing free atmospheric energy. The power lines are collecting the atmospheric energy, the sun stations are large earth batteries. The transformers are large capcitors to convert to usable power. Thanks for the work ypu are doing

Anticriminals's avatar

The US federal government can tax income (defined as being limited to profit, gain) coming from a federal source (being subject to federal law) within the confines of federal territories, such as Washington, DC. Title 26 defines "United States" as being strictly (limited to, including, confined within, meaning) federal properties only.

A "taxpayer" is not defined as being anyone paying tax. Under code section 7701 a 'taxpayer' is someone who is subject to the tax. Who is subject to the tax? Answer: federal public servants. What is subject to the tax? Answer: gains, profits from federal benefits that they do not actually work for. Is their labor taxed? Answer: Absolutely not.

What is the definition of 'wages'? Section 3401 defines 'wages' as including gain (benefits). Section 3401 also defines 'employees' as being federal public servants. Who is an 'employer'? The federal government itself.

Includes means confined within, limited to, enclosed within. We use the word 'means' to define. They use the word 'includes'. The word 'also' means in addition to. If you leave the word 'also' out, where it should be used, then the word 'includes' can appear to mean in addition to. It is just how Satanists wage war by deception. Appearances can be deceptive.

Farmer Pete's avatar

Most people think there is some large federal coffer where their income taxes go in, and then they are used like a fed household spending budget. What really happens when we 'pay income taxes' is they just keystroke the money out of existence- they may as well toss it in the rubbish can and start a warm fire for the hobos living under the bridge. If they want to do something like bail out a bunch of insolvent banks(ters) or finance another "war" (rape and pillage another country), they don't 'need' our taxes, they can just keystroke it into existence. Poof, money vaporized, or money created out of thin air.

This misconception is just one reason why people feel 'obligated', and never think twice about paying fed taxes. Part two is "everyone does it" (so it's a bit of a bandwagon fallacy causing everyone to go along with what is culturally "normal"). Lastly, people see the suits and ties of the 'organization' we call Government and the authoritative judicial robes and believe that we are being ruled by a legitimate organization of like-minded, well-meaning humans. Not a rogue band of marauding corporate and banking pirates using force, coercion, and extortion as a means of running a planetary plantation of labor slaves.

The federal government cannot run out of its own currency.

The U.S. government is the monopoly issuer of the U.S. dollar.

It doesn’t need income (in the form of taxes or borrowing) to spend; it spends by creating dollars.

It can always pay any obligation denominated in dollars.

It can never “owe” dollars it can’t create.

This is why U.S. Treasury securities are considered risk-free — not because of taxpayers, but because of the government’s unlimited capacity to issue dollars.

Taxes do not fund spending

Federal taxes do not pay for past, present, or future federal spending.

Instead, they:

Reduce private sector money balances (to 'control inflation'),

Influence behavior (through incentives and disincentives),

And give (perceived) value to the dollar (since taxes must be paid in dollars).

But when a Treasury security matures, the repayment comes not from taxes, but from the same source as all federal payments — keystrokes at the Fed.

Citizen Kane's avatar

You are 100% correct and I have their own words to prove it.

Scott Banks's avatar

In 2005 I was charged with driving without insurance in Canada. I argued that the government does not have the right to threaten me with harm if I refuse to buy an insurance policy. I compared it to the mafia extortion money from people selling fire insurance to bars and restaurants. I said the government is not above the law any more than the mafia is. Nobody can demand you pay for insurance. Because I challenged the validity of the law, the judge had to give the prosecutor one last chance to respond. The prosecutor said I was being disrespectful of the law and the the court. he was angling for a contempt of court charge. He never even tried to counter the extortion allegation I made. I won.

Of course the judge had to find me guilty anyway. She said. 2 hours it took her to come up with the ruling in a simple traffic case. She said that if the law had read, you will be punished by up to a year in jail and $10,000 fine, that would be extortion. Since it said I... may... be punished with a year in jail or $10,000, that's not extortion. It was legally ridiculous. Anybody in the mafia is safe as long as they say they... might... burn down your restaurant if you don't pay, according to this judge. I could have appealed it, and I should have. I never paid the fine and to this day, they've never come after me for the money. I think case got locked in a strong box and thrown down the deepest abandoned mineshaft in this country. I was arrested again in 2022. It wasn't even found in my records. I'm sure you could make the same case with taxes, extortion, and it's illegal. But you have to actually make the case in court. It helps nobody if it's not argued in court as a defense.

Anticriminals's avatar

Title 26 US Internal Revenue Code does not tax labor. It does not even apply to the private sector. It is war by deception!

Non-filer since 1979. I can teach anyone who wants to learn how to read and understand Title 26 Internal Revenue Code.

There is a great book titled "The Great Internal Revenue Hoax Exposed", by R. J. Ray Stenson that explains how to decipher the code .

People for life and freedom's avatar

The property tax is not a tax. It is charging someone for the right to own property ( a Home!). Such schemes of extortion are not permitted in a Republic. You cannot tax the same object over and over and over unless there is a contract or property report filed with the state/political subdivision showing profits are being generated by use of the land. See https://peopleforlifeandfreedom1.substack.com/p/the-monetization-of-life-liberty-7a7 for further details. Thanks You!

Tim Smith's avatar

Some more fuel for the fire.

The Law that Never Was is a controversial book by Bill Benson and M.J. "Red" Beckman that claims the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which established the federal income tax, was never properly ratified!

denise ward's avatar

So how do we start something going?

KMD's avatar

If people stopped complying, they would be finished. The levers would be shut down and their system would crash... people must be willing to suffer in order to stop this madness.

Brandon S.'s avatar

Informing people about jury nullification would be a huge step toward this, as well. In the case cited in the article, all it took was one jury to vote "not guilty". That is the power of the jury to decide if our "laws" are what we want as a people. And it is the one, true, only defense of the system that minorities can wield.

Sunny Ann's avatar

I truly believe the strongest strategy is to start at home base - the community. States vs Federal has been at the core of individual freedoms. I have read that the American Civil War was more about succession than slavery. And the recent “Real Id” fiasco illustrates it perfectly. The states have been pushing back on its implementation for 20 yrs now, they were the last barrier of protection for citizens avoiding being spied on. That’s just an example. But for every great disaster (especially the latest natural disasters- FEMA failed) it was the individuals, and local municipalities that worked together to make sure people were fed and sheltered. Which just shows the reality of the human situation - we need to keep our money and work together. One last example of this 😅 our (former) village board tried pulling a fast one and quietly pushed through a public vote on replacing our municipal police with the county sheriff. Turns out there were a few municipalities in our county (Red, top 20 wealthiest cty in US) that were going through the same situation. A former board member sat through the vote, then stuffed 1500 mailboxes (total town headcount) with the news coverage and the boards minutes. The board was forced to schedule a revote, 150 people crammed into our little village hall and for 2 hours the board was lambasted, forced to rescind the vote, and then all but 1 recalled. It was one of the most amazing situations to experience and I think we all knew it was just the beginning to the end of usurped power.

Gecko1's avatar

They can do whatever they want. They run the world, not us.

denise ward's avatar

Well we could run our own lives if we so sought to.

Gecko1's avatar

There is no escape from the Matrix:).

denise ward's avatar

Don't think of it as escape, think of it as taking your energy out of it and putting it towards that which you would love to see happen.

Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Do not confuse the Catholic Church with Christianity. The CC is a dominion governing structure used in conjunction with the Crown dominion system. Jesus taught “HARM NO ONE” if what someone is doing is causing harm, they are not a folllower of Jesus.

Cath-ode is the operative word, they are a sky clock worshiping death cult following occult practices to ultimate gain power so they may rule earth…. Dominion by law… Accronym: L.A.W.

Land - Crown of Spain (army)

Air - Crown of Vatican (corporations)

Water - Crown of England (navy)